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Originally Posted by Cashcid Linc
this technique is literally used in any area of profession and it is not a big leap of logic you need to make to apply it to poker. I used sports examples because contrary to you I think poker and sports have tons in common regarding purely the mindset aspects. That is overcoming and dealing with adversity. The same concept applies, you perform to your fullest potential in the face of adversity. Or get as close to it as you can. Also the greatest atheletes have mentioned the connection between mind and body, and that it is not your body that makes you stop at a certain point to push further, it is your mind.
How about Jason Koon talking about the benefits of visualization, is that Poker related enough to you?
https://www.runitonce.com/poker-trai...rom-the-heart/
the fact that you feel the need to lecture me on trivial things like luck factor in poker and sports and poker not being the same thing is funny to me
Poker mental coaches use sport examples because that's where this stuff comes from.
The following is from my book
Real Poker Psychology - Expanded Edition:
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The Components of a Game
While this idea has already been addressed some in this book, including the previous chapter “It’s Not What You Eat” starting on page 162, I want to go into it in more detail here. Part of the reason for this is that this idea is something that almost all the poker mental coaches don’t understand and thus get wrong, and is perhaps more than any other reason why almost all the poker mental coaches give advice that has virtually nothing to do with poker.
Basically, you can divide almost any game into two components, the knowledge component and the execution component. And the following is from the previous chapter:
To understand this better, let's take another look at tennis. Suppose you’re a good tennis player, are on the court, and your opponent hits the ball over the net and now it's your turn to hit it back. What do you do?
I believe that two things happen. First, you instantly know what you want to do. That is, you’ll decide what spot on the court you’ll want to hit the ball to, how hard you’ll want to hit it, how much and what kind of spin you’ll want to put on it, and so on.
Notice that so far we're talking about the knowledge component.
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Next you’ll have to do this, and that requires speed, timing, and coordination.
And now we’re talking about the execution component.
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Now let’s look at poker. It’s your turn to act and you have a decision to make. Suppose your opponent has bet and you have to decide whether to fold, call, or raise, and if the game is no-limit how much to raise. Of course, a good player will know what to do in almost all situations quite quickly, and the remaining spots will take a little more time
Clearly, this is the knowledge component of poker.
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but will he need speed, timing, and coordination to get it done? That answer is no.
And again this is the execution component of poker.
However, notice something interesting, the execution component in poker either doesn’t exist, or if it does exist, it must play a minor role compared to the knowledge component, while in an athletic sport like tennis, the execution component is quite important, takes thousands of hours of practice to develop at a high level, and in my opinion in many athletic sports it’s probably more important than the knowledge component.
So why is this important? Well, the answer is that when reading the poker psychology books of which I’ve only read a few, and I also assume this is true of the coaching/counseling that many of these people sell, there’s a ton of stuff that clearly comes from the execution component of the sports world and is essentially worthless for the vast majority of players in poker. So, we hear about unconscious competence, how it takes 10,000 hours of study and play to be an elite player, taking deep breaths (which I assume makes you more relaxed), and of course being thankful for the hot shower that you took in the morning which has something to do with gratitude which I assume is supposed to reduce stress. But I also don’t see how any of this helps to improve your knowledge of the game, which is what you use to make your playing decisions.
To finish, I want to stress that this is a very important chapter. It’s not that it contains information which will improve your poker results but that it contains information which should help you avoid many of the pitfalls of the mental side of poker. And if you can do this and then pay attention to those things that are actually important at the poker table, and you’re let’s say an intermediate player, your chance of becoming a much better player (with more experience) should go up.