The problem with Tricia Cardner, Elliot Roe, and Jared Tendler is that they have all admitted to the fact that they aren't poker experts. The STUDIOUS plus EV poker player who somehow has negative effective EV because of tilt, lack of motivation, and other emotional issues is better off just reading the following playlist and using their own specific knowledge about their niche industry (namely the professional poker niche industry) to tailor what they can learn from NLP, sports psychology, trading psychology, stoicism and Zen to their own poker playing and winning:

How to Be a Stoic (Pigliucci)

The Structure of Magic (Bandler/Grinder)

Unlimited Power (Tony Robbins)

The New Toughness Training for Sports (James Loehr)

The Power of Now (Eckhart Tolle)

Super Trader (Van K Tharp)

Emotional Intelligence (Daniel Goleman)

The poker mindset coaches steal ideas from others and charge their prospects money for the added service of tailoring and customizing those ideas to the field of poker performance ($100 Big Mac). But the STUDIOUS poker player who is good enough to get a good comprehension of the two Janda books, Theory of Poker (original and NLH), Modern Poker Theory, and others can do their own customizing and tailoring ($5 Big Mac but with Wagyu).

Get Charlie to do a livestream:

Are mental game coaches legit?

Charlie actually did a stream about exposing scam coaches a few days back and subsequently got himself into a bit of a pickle. Kaki reviewed some of the footage and then got on call with him for those interested. Spicy viewing

That thumbnail XD

Hilarious. 7 minutes and forwards is great, I didn't realize it was this bad because I don't play in NL.

The grift is strong in this one. People who defended him at the beginning of the thread look pretty dumb by now.

P.S. (Big Error) I doubt I was serving that "in" at that age... but definitely got there very young. I miss Tennis a lot it's not to see a a lot of fellow poker player/tennis players. Oddly, there were a lot in the early 2000s. Hansen/Antonious

Weisman at another finale table (3 left) @ US Poker Open.

Can't beat mid stakes PLO on US sites according to thread.

Seen here posing with his winnings



Nothing shuts the haters up like final tabling live tournaments!

I thought of this thread when this popped up on r/poker today.

https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comme..._regulars_ama/

Hadn't heard of him? Anyone know if he is legit or just paid off the r/poker mods.

Watch a Twitch Streamer and see the guy that has literally in front of your eyes made 100k or 200k and ask for coaching references directly. Don't take words for it. They can fake what they did in March/April of 2023 if you watch for a month or two.

I just think posting graphs of ~100k+ hands of games played within a year is a good standard for coaches. Just show us evidence you're playing and beating the games currently.

That guy also has a thread here on 2p2: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...ified-1814462/

The community needs to be saved from this very dangerous man!

You people are absolutely wrong
This thread started wrong when the first poster used as an argument that "those who can't do, teach". Nobody debunked that fallacy, and instead you are still going on about the same things. Let me do that for you to get you back on the right track.

Let me start with the logical fallacy of the quote. It is that the OP used it as if it meant that those who do can teach well
Actually, those who do cannot necessarily teach. Also, those who can teach don't have to be the best, and a good teacher is somebody who can make you better than themselves.

It is actually a fact that many people who became very successful cannot explain how they got there. This is also true in the business world. Many successful entrepreneurs and millionaires have a hard time telling which things actually made them successful, and most often cannot teach others how to get to do those things. Let me give you an example: Elon Musk is now a tech billionaire, and has about 10 companies. But I doubt you he could teach you how to do the same. That's proven by the fact that nobody goes to Musk for coaching. Because he's not good at it.

For one, pedagogical ability is a skill, and it's both a natural and learnt. I would say it is about being able to explain in a clear, structured, easy to understand manner. Perhaps, also about bringing forward the right examples. And also about adjusting well to the requirements of the student.

Another skill required by teachers and coaches to have is to be able to conceptualize something well enough, and break it down into chunks. There are also many techniques about teaching, such as those which are taught in Education degrees, which teachers take.

If you are still not convinced, take a simple example. The maths teacher the majority of you had at highschool was far from an achieved mathematician. They had likely written very few research papers, if any, and didn't make any discoveries in the world of math. But they had the skills required to teach you math, and so that you could be able to do that, and become better mathematcians than them.

That goes for the trash talk about Johnathan Little. He is good enough as a player to understand poker pretty well for coaching reasons. He can get a beginning player to become an advanced player. He doesn't need to be one of the top players in the game to do that.

Also, to prove the point that the best players in poker aren't the best teachers, Phil Hellmuth is one of the top players in the world for years but his books can hardly make you a good player, and I haven't heard of anyone taking coaching from him.

Jamie Gold ?

In my previous post, I obviously blended the concepts of a teacher, an author, and a coach. Although each can differ, whether that is important depends.

And, to get to some specific things, here are some criteria for considering whether a "poker coach" is good:
1. They are a winning player at your level, ideally also at higher levels, winning at a good rate or better
2. They have published at least a half decent poker strategy guide, and ideally a few good books about it
3. They have good pedagogical skills (breaking concepts down, bringing good examples, teaching in a structured way)
4. They are knowledgeable on poker software, and proficient at using key tools for coaching
5. They have a positive and motivating attitude
6. The best indicator for how good they are, is positive results from their students who received coaching

Feel free to correct/comment on the above

Great video, thanks for introducing me to KakiTee, what a legend

To continue off of my last post about criteria for choosing a good coach, here is a real world case.

A few weeks ago I came across the website www.mttdatabasereview.com randomly. It is the website of a poker coach, with the nickname "Like a G6". During the same day I found it, I happened to have been watching a poker stream on Twitch (It may have been Spraggy' stream, but I am not sure), and that player was on a final table on GG Poker.

I admit that, the first time I read through the content of the website, I got a very positive impression about his coaching skills. He seemed professional and experienced in his coaching. I was particularly impressed by the customer testimonials, and software reviews.

2 weeks ago I found out that he is currently an active member of this forum as well. He even replied to one of the threads I started!

However, here is how I would assess that poker coach with the method I suggested in my previous post:

Criteria for a good coach which "Like a G6" fulfills :
3: He has a clear method about how he does coaching, which he explain on his website: A review of a certain number of hands
4: On his website, he reviews numerous pieces of poker software, old and new, and even makes recommendations about each (Under the tab "Study tips")
6: One his website, he presents a dozen or more graphs and comments from players he coached, and they are all winning players (Under the tab "Testimonials")

Criteria which he doesn't fulfill / dubious:
1: He hasn't posted his tournament results on his page.
Also, I looked up on Sharkscope/Playerscope and, although he is a winning player - mostly on Winamax, it returns that last time he cashed large in a tournament was in 2015

2: He most likely hasn't ever written at least a single half-decent strategy guide. There is no such information on his website, and I didn't find any briefly searching Google & Youtube either

Irrelevant
5: You can't tell from his website whether he has a positive & motivating attitude, since there is no information about it. However, since he doesn't interact with video calls with the players, and only does hand reviews, perhaps this skill is not relevant, since it is not necessary to have.

Given the results of my research, my impression about how good he is became less positive than originally, but now it is based on information. I have doubts whether I would pay $250/hour to get a review with that information, and mostly, because of not fulfilling criteria 1 & 2.

In addition to those, since the value of his coaching is based on a review of hand histories, I think it would be better to add a SAMPLE of a review of some hands on the website, so that prospective clients can get an idea of what that's like beforehand.

Note: I did this review only to demonstrate what I think is a good research to find a good coach, for the purposes of this thread, and I tried to be as objective as possible, as if I would want to hire that coach by myself. I hope if you are reading this, "Like a G6" that you won't get mad, and, instead, that you may use my comments to improve your website.

Speaking of con artist coaches on an episode of S4y berkey said he sees nothing wrong with losing players charging for coaching and that they can totally make good coaches. He also went on a tangent about how Roy jones would make a bad boxing coach. Also something about theory and execution not being the same thing. In poker they kinda are though. Without theory its impossible to execute. The comparison to sports is also kinda silly.

That is the guy I asked about in this thread.
After that obviously fake/supect reddit post that showed up last week, under the guise of being an AMA.

He didn't even have is his name in the original post. It was then quickly filled with softball questions and positive reviews out of nowhere. Of course, the r/poker trash mods have to make money so they left it all up. I don't care if he is on 2plus2 it was all shady.

Awesome! I am glad I hit the right guy and my assessment helped you!

I found out his name is Vojtech Cervinka. He is Czech, and lives in Czech Republic. I found that out from his Facebook page, and the page about him on Hendonmob.

https://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/pla...p?a=r&n=269880

He also has a profile on Pocarr with his name, where it also writes that he has been playing poker for over 10 years.
https://pocarr.com/the-team/

I would have written all that on my own website if I wanted any serious people to hire me.

In the information age, you only have to look at the countless people who act as if they're experts on any given subject after viewing an article or two on their favourite search engine. Who needs expert-level qualifications or credentials, right?

When these "experts" rely on the vagueness, unverifiable and wishy-washy nature of their work, surely one has to question their worth? For example, you essentially have people who've spent a week at a retreat in Sri Lanka but are now somehow overnight life/visualisation/spiritual gurus. Then you've got "mental coaches" with no measurable proof of quality in any high-level sporting, professional or other life environment, with at best a faux "qualification" from a no-name university in an overly basic or elementary subject, essentially charging you $1000s/hour to tell you to "stay calm" when you're losing, or "not to worry" about losses. Laughable.

I'm not saying all those offering these services are unreliable, but as with anything, relatively few are of any substantial quality. The question is, what says more about the worrying state of society? The fact that this huge number of questionable "professionals" not only exist but earn more than comfortable livings from selling their services at outrageous prices, or the mental state of the people thinking that what they're buying is worthwhile?

The primary principle that gurus and experts use to justify calling themselves experts is:

white belt....yellow belt....orange belt.....green belt....purple belt....blue belt...brown belt...black belt...

"You don't need to be a black belt to be qualified to teach a white belt. That's because a green belt has all of the knowledge necessary to teach a white belt everything that the white belt needs to know to graduate to yellow belt."

In other words, being an "expert" is relative. To someone who is at the level of still not knowing that a full house beats a straight, the person who they know does is a relative expert even if that expert barely knows how a semi-bluff works. You don't need Dominic Nitsche or Michael Acevedo to teach someone that a full house beats a straight.

And that's where the scamming begins. You have all these green belts from all types of fields (poker, business, self help, mindset) segmenting their markets and then targeting white belts and using the Robert Cialdini principles of persuasion along with good copywriting to easily convince the white belts that they are noted authorities and experts - black belts in the field.

Cardner, Angelo, Rowe, Tendler are green belts who have crowned themselves as black belts in the areas of sports psychology, Zen Buddhism, Stoicism, neurolinguistic programming, etc. and they're not even orange belts. Yet fools think they're black belts and pay these jujitsu orange belts (a.k.a. fake jujitsu black belts) - getting metaphorical here - amounts that only the likes of Khabib Nurmagomedov and Rickson Gracie are genuinely and honestly deserving.

To those who are planning to pay orange belts black belt money in the area of "poker mindset", read these books first...

How to Be a Stoic (Pigliucci)

Peace is Every Step (Thich Nhat Hahn)

The Structure of Magic (Bandler/Grinder)

Unlimited Power (Tony Robbins)

The New Toughness Training for Sports (James Loehr)

The Power of Now (Eckhart Tolle)

Super Trader (Van K Tharp)

Emotional Intelligence (Daniel Goleman)

After you have studied these books, you will be an orange belt in "poker mindset" and maybe you can target white belts using good copywriting along with Robert Cialdini's principles of persuasion, and be a fake black belt yourself just like IMO Tendler, Rowe, Angelo, Cardner and others.

I don't think the issue is big enough to worry about

Can you elaborate on the 1st part and the 3rd part