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Well known poker personality allows an inappropriate fake story on his forum Well known poker personality allows an inappropriate fake story on his forum

08-24-2018 , 03:51 PM
Did you hear the breaking news? Todd Witteles of a competitor poker site has been accused of allowing a long time forum member to perpetrate a cancer and death hoax!

Can you believe it? Todd Witteles goes around the poker community on his high horse and has now been caught allowing the man who staked him in $10k WSOP events to announce to his forum that he has stage 4, terminal cancer. Then, the mans "death" was announced.

But wait... the whole thing was a lie. A hoax. A falsehood. The man never had cancer. It was all made up. The liar in question staked Todd for years now, and backed Todd in two $10k events at the 2018 WSOP.

In your opinion, is this ethical behavior? Can Todd Witteles trusted in the poker community?

Last edited by R*R; 08-27-2018 at 01:45 AM. Reason: See post 25
08-24-2018 , 04:08 PM
Who else remembers how Todd Witteles treated the owner of this forum when he thought he had caught him in some sort of tennis tax scam (false accusation)? Do you remember how rough he was?

Last edited by R*R; 08-27-2018 at 12:15 PM.
08-24-2018 , 04:12 PM
Todd Witteles was never my friend

Last edited by R*R; 08-27-2018 at 12:15 PM.
08-24-2018 , 04:15 PM
Marty, is that you?
08-24-2018 , 04:19 PM
Who cares if someone decided to fake die on another forum? Did he solicit money for it or something?
08-24-2018 , 04:34 PM
No money was involved.

A longtime forum member was getting harassed in real life by some psychos, so he decided to fake an illness and death in order to be left alone.

Stupid idea, yes, but there was no scam, and I never once went along with it or lied.

The OP is a fake troll account created today, and this entire thread was created simply to harm my name via SEO tactics. (Notice he mentions my full name repeatedly.)

Mods, please delete thread, or at least de-SEO it. The OP isn't even a legit account.
08-24-2018 , 05:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilowatt
No money was involved.

A longtime forum member was getting harassed in real life by some psychos, so he decided to fake an illness and death in order to be left alone.

Stupid idea, yes, but there was no scam, and I never once went along with it or lied.

The OP is a fake troll account created today, and this entire thread was created simply to harm my name via SEO tactics. (Notice he mentions my full name repeatedly.)

Mods, please delete thread, or at least de-SEO it. The OP isn't even a legit account.

I do think this thread SHOULD be deleted in any event, as the allegations against Todd are pretty severe and zero support or basis is provided.

(Not a Dan Druff fan, but what's right is right.)

Last edited by Gzesh; 08-24-2018 at 05:40 PM.
08-24-2018 , 05:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gzesh
.... and those psychos read your forum ?

I do think this thread SHOULD be deleted in any event, as the allegations against Todd are pretty severe and zero support or basis is provided.

(Not a Dan Druff fan, but what's right is right.)
I'm sad you don't like me, David.

I've had so many good things to say about your 2001 True Poker site (being serious here, not sarcastic).

I guess I was critical of your recent crypto project, but whatever.

I'm actually curious as to why you have a problem with me. PM it if you want.
08-24-2018 , 05:34 PM
Interesting that you are asking 2p2 to censor a post. How often have you deleted defaming posts made toward Mason or other members of the 2p2 admin team?
08-24-2018 , 05:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Videopro
Interesting that you are asking 2p2 to censor a post. How often have you deleted defaming posts made toward Mason or other members of the 2p2 admin team?
This is a junk thread made by a fake account, with highly misleading allegations for SEO purposes.

That's why I'm asking for it to be deleted, as it should if it were aimed against any other individual.

I have no issue with people using 2p2 to call me out with legit gripes.
08-24-2018 , 05:48 PM
That is not answering the direct question.
08-24-2018 , 05:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Videopro
How often have you deleted defaming posts made toward Mason or other members of the 2p2 admin team?
Or made the defaming posts himself?

I agree that the thread should probably be deleted/edited if nothing of substance comes up, and I don't think what's posted on his forum changes that, but see some humour in the situation.
08-24-2018 , 06:12 PM
Since OP posted I've read over the recent communication in the PFA thread that's blowing up.

I'm not sure if posting thread link here is appropriate, but it's a pretty pathetic situation all-around. At least from the perspective of someone who wasn't aware of the drama until OP posted.

There have been roughly 300 posts (a few from Todd himself) since around midnight Eastern today, some critical of Todd (along the lines of what OP has posted), and some not.

My initial take is that this issue might get reposted if deleted because of how much attention it's currently getting over on the PFA forum.
08-24-2018 , 06:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dhubermex
Since OP posted I've read over the recent communication in the PFA thread that's blowing up.

I'm not sure if posting thread link here is appropriate, but it's a pretty pathetic situation all-around. At least from the perspective of someone who wasn't aware of the drama until OP posted.

There have been roughly 300 posts (a few from Todd himself) since around midnight Eastern today, some critical of Todd (along the lines of what OP has posted), and some not.

My initial take is that this issue might get reposted if deleted because of how much attention it's currently getting over on the PFA forum.
No links allowed.
08-24-2018 , 06:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilowatt
Mods at least de-SEO it.

Done for now. But depending how this goes it might get changed.

Last edited by R*R; 08-24-2018 at 09:16 PM. Reason: Changed OP back to original content. See post 25.
08-24-2018 , 06:45 PM
The thread over there is going hot and heavy. Post 740 and it's comment is a good read.
08-24-2018 , 06:50 PM
Though really a moderation thread topic at this point.

But since discussion carries on..

I agree with Dan. Thread should clearly be deleted.

If not, can anyone start any thread about anyone with made up stuff (I'm assuming that is the case here) Its OK to post twisted truths and such and be posted clearly and obviously for SEO purposes to damage the target ?

Full Disclosure: I'm a Dan fan.

The only thing I know about him is UB stuff and that he has had some tiffs with Mason

Last edited by PTLou; 08-24-2018 at 06:56 PM.
08-24-2018 , 07:16 PM
Why should this thread be deleted? I've read that 'other' site a couple of times. Someone actually mentioned it a few years ago in a juicy cash game at foxwoods. He criticizes people and this forum all the time. Like all the time. His crusade it seems is to be the head lead of outting all scammers. Like the King. Nobody can pull a fast one by Dandruff. Now shock shock it seems like he isn't as righteous as him and his site proclaim to be.

If they delete this on here that would be the travesty. This should definitely stay up. And my wife would agree because im sure Gzesh will say he was expecting another wife comment by someone. No but in all seriousness that guy Dandruff has ruthlessly attacked prominent members of this forum repeatedly. It's actually shocking that he came on here begging for the mods to delete. They definitely shouldn't.
08-24-2018 , 07:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilowatt

I'm sad you don't like me, David.

I've had so many good things to say about your 2001 True Poker site (being serious here, not sarcastic).

I guess I was critical of your recent crypto project, but whatever.

I'm actually curious as to why you have a problem with me. PM it if you want.
Put simply, I just thought you were being unfairly smeared by OP without any support for the claims.
08-24-2018 , 07:30 PM
After pursuing the PFA thread, I am not seeing any falsehoods in the OP. It appears that while not directly participating, he was aware it was going on and did nothing to stop it in its tracks.
08-24-2018 , 07:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
Why should this thread be deleted? I've read that 'other' site a couple of times. Someone actually mentioned it a few years ago in a juicy cash game at foxwoods. He criticizes people and this forum all the time. Like all the time. His crusade it seems is to be the head lead of outting all scammers. Like the King. Nobody can pull a fast one by Dandruff. Now shock shock it seems like he isn't as righteous as him and his site proclaim to be.

If they delete this on here that would be the travesty. This should definitely stay up. And my wife would agree because im sure Gzesh will say he was expecting another wife comment by someone. No but in all seriousness that guy Dandruff has ruthlessly attacked prominent members of this forum repeatedly. It's actually shocking that he came on here begging for the mods to delete. They definitely shouldn't.
You self-checked that box right off I see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuNg1iWHtgU , see, at :57 to 1:12 (Brad Pitt)

Dan has spent a lot of time on his own forum in various baseless fits of speculation, true. No reason however to spread that sort of discussion here.
08-24-2018 , 07:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Videopro
After pursuing the PFA thread, I am not seeing any falsehoods in the OP. It appears that while not directly participating, he was aware it was going on and did nothing to stop it in its tracks.
I'm thinking the title should changed to something like

'Todd Whittles aka dandruff and kilowatt accused of allowing false sympathy story to remain because of backer arrangement'

Or something similar.
08-24-2018 , 07:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by R*R
He has posted some real **** about people over the years and now he asks for us to help him out? I don't think so. The story appears true except for the financial scamming part. I say we leave but for the SEO trace of any real name posts.

I will do that but if someone prefers to delete the thread, I am fine with that.
Hi R*R:

I think you have the right approach and that what you say above is absolutely correct. I find it ironic that someone who always argues for freedom of speech wants something deleted. I also think the moderators like yourself are the ones who should make the stay or delete decision, and don’t need specific input from me.

Best wishes,
Mason
08-24-2018 , 08:27 PM
Um, OK...

08-24-2018 , 09:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilowatt
No money was involved.

A longtime forum member was getting harassed in real life by some psychos, so he decided to fake an illness and death in order to be left alone.

Stupid idea, yes, but there was no scam, and I never once went along with it or lied.

The OP is a fake troll account created today, and this entire thread was created simply to harm my name via SEO tactics. (Notice he mentions my full name repeatedly.)

Mods, please delete thread, or at least de-SEO it. The OP isn't even a legit account.

I reviewed the thread in your forum and given that this certainly did happen in your forum, I feel the thread and OP are fine. The SEO thing isn't a big enough to let you have your identity censored. It's throughout your forum anyways and may likely appear around the internet.

I personally have no opinion or real interest in this whole thing but it is an issue that is easily suited for NVG, so I have decided to keep the OP in it's
entirety. I originally removed your real information to allow the research on the topic. Now that I have reviewed the situation and given that you are a well known poker personality that often encourages these types of discussions I made the determination to keep the OP as originally posted with no edits.

      
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