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Old 04-24-2015, 04:37 PM   #176
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Re: WCGRider and Dong Kim to play against a new HU bot

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Please could somebody translate this for me.
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Old 04-24-2015, 04:47 PM   #177
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

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apologies if this has been covered already, but

the reason wcg & dong are seperated from flushie and cheet is because the computer is giving them the same hole cards flipped if that makes sense

eg

downstairs
hand 1 for wcg rider: AA .... hand 1 for robot: 77
hand 1 for donger: 72 .... hand 1 for robot: QQ

upstairs
hand 1 for asian flushie: 77 .... hand 1 for robot: AA
hand 1 for cheet: QQ .... hand 1 for robot: 72

etc

this way its a better indicator of skill since you cant totally claim runbad

i'm assuming they get the same runouts too
Thank you.
That explains some of the back-and-forth conversations.
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Old 04-24-2015, 05:09 PM   #178
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

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this will be very interesting. hope we can see details of how each played each hand.
You can ... just have to watch all the streams
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Old 04-24-2015, 05:17 PM   #179
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

are they seriously playing for 80k hands? This is gonna take weeks at this pace
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Old 04-24-2015, 05:23 PM   #180
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

Humans up 100k (blinds 50/100) after 2500 hands, WCG up 80k, Dong up 40k.
http://www.twitch.tv/claudico_vs_bjornli
http://www.twitch.tv/claudico_vs_dougpolk
http://www.twitch.tv/claudico_vs_dongkim
http://www.twitch.tv/claudico_vs_jasonles

edit: bjorn li just called a huge 19x pot ob shove w 2p and got shown straight. had A6 on A67 4 9 and got shown 85. in the same spot donger also huge obshoved river and bot called, but pot was a bit bigger.

edit2: wcg explaining why humans are superior to bots at nlhe.

edit3: wcg explains whenever he calls pre he mindonks flop.

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Old 04-24-2015, 05:25 PM   #181
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Old 04-24-2015, 05:28 PM   #182
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

750 hands*4 humans per day = 3000 hands per day
80k/3k = 26.6 days

for how long did they play today? 6 hours? surely they won't be playing for 27 consecutive days. is there a schedule somewhere?
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Old 04-24-2015, 05:36 PM   #183
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

this is so good. GO HUMANS!
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Old 04-24-2015, 05:36 PM   #184
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

If they are getting the same reversed cards as well as runouts then there should be literally no complaints about runbad (in case there is 0 edge between wcg/donger/flushie/cheet, which is obv not the case but pretty close), esp over 80k hands.

In any case this is gonna be a complete bloodbath, gg bot, cya in 3 years.
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Old 04-24-2015, 05:42 PM   #185
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

why did they put the pokerwise dumbest person on earth next to doug?
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Old 04-24-2015, 05:44 PM   #186
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

I was thinking about that as well. Is that one of the programmers behind the bot? How can he not know basic poker terminology
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Old 04-24-2015, 05:55 PM   #187
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Old 04-24-2015, 05:56 PM   #188
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

"That's a Chris Ferguson move"
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Old 04-24-2015, 05:58 PM   #189
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

WCG is just fantastic.
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Old 04-24-2015, 06:00 PM   #190
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

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I was thinking about that as well. Is that one of the programmers behind the bot? How can he not know basic poker terminology
Pretty sure that is Tuomas Sandholm, creator of the bot (team leader at CMU)
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Old 04-24-2015, 06:01 PM   #191
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

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"That's a Chris Ferguson move"
"Post-oak-bluff"
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Old 04-24-2015, 06:03 PM   #192
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You should never hit a man with glasses on....good thing Cheet recently got lasik!!
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Old 04-24-2015, 06:09 PM   #193
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

I'm rooting for humans so bad lol
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Old 04-24-2015, 06:15 PM   #194
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

Doug has made some huge all in bluffs
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Old 04-24-2015, 06:17 PM   #195
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

seidel cheerleading for the bots hard behind the velvet ropes.
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Old 04-24-2015, 06:18 PM   #196
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

Break soon after 3k hands total. Humans up what 65k+40k+10k-17k = 98k?

WCG says: One day AI will be a lot stronger than humans. One day. He's not going to hide in a cave and hope it goes away but rather be a part of the process. But he hopes it'll go away :P.

Doug rates the AI as 4 or 5 out of 10 if it was a reg at his normal tables. Programmer gets hurt and tries to defend himself by throwing crap at asianflushie. Programmer comaplins about how good WCG is running. "Oh top pair. Again? That's your signature move.".

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Old 04-24-2015, 06:18 PM   #197
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

are they getting paid out the amount of money they win off the bot?
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Old 04-24-2015, 06:19 PM   #198
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

So the stack sizes reset to 20k every hand?

What does everyone think about that? Doesn't really track to how a normal HUNL match would play obv. Does that matter though?
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Old 04-24-2015, 06:32 PM   #199
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

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are they getting paid out the amount of money they win off the bot?
from what i was told they get a flat fee regardless of winning or losing.
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Old 04-24-2015, 06:32 PM   #200
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

bot losing at 33bb/100.
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