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Old 04-30-2015, 03:53 PM   #926
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

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http://multitwitch.tv/claudico_vs_do...co_vs_jasonles

to 4 table.

twitch.tv/claudico_vs_dougpolk
twitch.tv/claudico_vs_dongkim
twitch.tv/caludico_vs_bjornli
twitch.tv/claudico_vs_jasonles

for individual tables
Thank you
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Old 04-30-2015, 03:54 PM   #927
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what is link to watch this?
multitwitch dot tv/claudico_vs_dougpolk/claudico_vs_dongkim/claudico_vs_bjornli/claudico_vs_jasonles for all 4 at once.

twitch dot tv/claudico_vs_dougpolk (or replace dougpolk with any other name) if you want to watch one at once.

Last edited by what is check; 04-30-2015 at 03:55 PM. Reason: nevermind, i was way too late lol
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Old 04-30-2015, 03:55 PM   #928
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

The humans are gonna be up more than 600k after this session almost halfway through the challenge. They seem to have improved at playing the bot far more than the bot has at playing against them.

Biggest storylines now will be who wins by more, bjorn or wcg (matters for their prize money), and can jason get plus. Maybe can the humans beat the bot by more than 20bb/100 is another one.
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Old 04-30-2015, 03:56 PM   #929
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

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right I knew there was one big hand missing.

did the bot fold T6o to button raise?
Yeah I think so
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:14 PM   #930
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

Wow bot is tiiiight.
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:42 PM   #931
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

Can I ask a potentially stupid question? I have only been watching for a little bit. Are there four different versions of the bot? That is, is the underlying program exactly the same for the four incarnations of the bot(s) vs. the four humans, or has the bot/programmers "adapted" to the individual humans differently?

Thanks much.
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:50 PM   #932
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Can I ask a potentially stupid question? I have only been watching for a little bit. Are there four different versions of the bot? That is, is the underlying program exactly the same for the four incarnations of the bot(s) vs. the four humans, or has the bot/programmers "adapted" to the individual humans differently?

Thanks much.
not at all a stupid Q and Id like to know as well; highly entertaining and not only, so far !
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:52 PM   #933
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

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i really like how Doug is handling himself and have been enjoy watching the stream for about an hour each day.

That said he did throw some shots live on stream a couple days against Kanu. Not sure about their history or if it's justified, but he basically was saying the bot was making some donkeyish raises "like Kanu".

I guess the implications could just be that Kanu is confirmed GTO like a supercomputer bot
Yeah, would definitely have a beer with WCG. Seems like a cool dude irl.
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Old 04-30-2015, 05:37 PM   #934
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

omg, wcg had a straight with 53 on a 7649dd board. Bot raised his stack except left 3k behind. Instead of shoving wcg called, flush hit on the river. bot had 53dd

This would not be a big deal in real poker except had he gotten it in on the turn, it would have been an equity chop, this way with no equity chop he lost his entire stack. Of course it would have saved him some money if the diamond had not hit on the river, so it was the same in terms of EV but this way he increased his variance.
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Old 04-30-2015, 05:45 PM   #935
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

Tbf wcg has ran more than well enough in misclick equity.
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Old 04-30-2015, 05:47 PM   #936
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

robl paid someone to jump into a pool of sharks?
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Old 04-30-2015, 05:58 PM   #937
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robl paid someone to jump into a pool of sharks?
It almost happened ... you can read it in Ship It Holla Ballas!
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/spre...-storms-reback

Wrong thread though mate.

/derail
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Old 04-30-2015, 06:06 PM   #938
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

what are the current scores? how many hands left?
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Old 04-30-2015, 06:32 PM   #939
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

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what are the current scores? how many hands left?
Before current session, humans up about 650k after 39k hands or so. They are playing 80k hands.
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Old 04-30-2015, 07:14 PM   #940
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

bots can't be scary if they timeout consistently though, amirite?
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Old 04-30-2015, 07:17 PM   #941
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

Cheet has said multiple times that wcg is so much better than him (in earnest). Don't think it was modesty as much as general respect for wcg's skillz. On that note, wcg is currently down 100k this session.
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Old 04-30-2015, 07:23 PM   #942
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

is multitwitch broken for anyone else?
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Old 04-30-2015, 07:36 PM   #943
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

are they getting 100k each for this or is or 100k total?
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Old 04-30-2015, 07:44 PM   #944
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

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omg, wcg had a straight with 53 on a 7649dd board. Bot raised his stack except left 3k behind. Instead of shoving wcg called, flush hit on the river. bot had 53dd

This would not be a big deal in real poker except had he gotten it in on the turn, it would have been an equity chop, this way with no equity chop he lost his entire stack. Of course it would have saved him some money if the diamond had not hit on the river, so it was the same in terms of EV but this way he increased his variance.
other sick part of this is in the reverse hand i think the bot just folded the 53o pre.
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Old 04-30-2015, 07:52 PM   #945
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

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are they getting 100k each for this or is or 100k total?
Has been explained in detail already, well here you go ...

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Just incase this wasn't already posted:

100k sponsorship money for the event
10k fixed payment for each of the 4 players (40k)
Remaining 60k to be distributed amongst the 4 depending on amount won from bot

Seems very low for these top players to accept but I assume they make up the value in whatever information they learn from playing the bot, and whatever sidebets they may have
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Old 04-30-2015, 07:52 PM   #946
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

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are they getting 100k each for this or is or 100k total?
from ironandwine a few pages back:

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Just incase this wasn't already posted:

100k sponsorship money for the event
10k fixed payment for each of the 4 players (40k)
Remaining 60k to be distributed amongst the 4 depending on amount won from bot
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Old 04-30-2015, 07:54 PM   #947
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

It would be really interesting to see how the bot would perform playing against itself in each matchup.

e.g. Doug is up $450k vs Claudico
Claudico-DougBot would be up $250k playing vs Claudico
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Old 05-01-2015, 03:58 AM   #948
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Re: WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

Claudico can be beaten by 3 humans in world? from yesterday what I see Jason Les cant beat it even then Doug is down vs bot.
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Old 05-01-2015, 03:59 AM   #949
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strong understanding of sample size
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Old 05-01-2015, 04:05 AM   #950
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These players shouldn't give away top tier strategy imo
I donk think they giving much away maby exept how to beat claudico. From begining they already knew they going to use Anti-computer tactics such as minbets to make complex desision tree to bot so it non standart readless game even from first hand.
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