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04-29-2015 , 03:27 PM
WCG is SO ****ing good.
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04-29-2015 , 03:29 PM
WCG is a beast, his stream is great, could watch it all day
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04-29-2015 , 03:29 PM
WCG just made a sick play lol.

A2 with the ace of diamonds. in the BB. calls a raise.

Flop 382dd, WCG min leads, bot raises, WCG 3 bets, bot calls. Turn Td WCG leads 4200 on turn (pot), bot raises 6k, leaving ~4k behind. WCG jams and even claims the bot has folds in its range. Bot folds for 4k with 36k in there lol.
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04-29-2015 , 03:29 PM
Holy shiet that hand
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04-29-2015 , 03:31 PM
I put the bot on 46o no diamond. Thats about the only hand you can fold there getting 9:1, right?
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04-29-2015 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by feedmykids2
WCG just made a sick play lol.

A2 with the ace of diamonds. in the BB. calls a raise.

Flop 382dd, WCG min leads, bot raises, WCG 3 bets, bot calls. Turn Td WCG leads 4200 on turn (pot), bot raises 6k, leaving ~4k behind. WCG jams and even claims the bot has folds in its range. Bot folds for 4k with 36k in there lol.
Bot had KdTh there..
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04-29-2015 , 03:39 PM
How does Bot fold KdTh there?
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04-29-2015 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Snuffers
How does Bot fold KdTh there?
By clicking the fold button.

Last edited by krazykarter; 04-29-2015 at 03:43 PM. Reason: Do bots actually click buttons?
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04-29-2015 , 03:45 PM
Dong called a big bluff with AA on a very scary board. He looked like he was gonna click fold then tanked for 5 more minutes and called. HUMANS!
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04-29-2015 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by krazykarter
By clicking the fold button.
Bot obv misclicked, or misread the board.
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04-29-2015 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Snuffers
Bot obv misclicked, or misread the board.
Now you've got me hoping that the developers added a 0.001% chance that the bot misreads the board, makes the wrong play, and walks away cursing.
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04-29-2015 , 03:53 PM
inb4 bot types in chat, "keep min leading the flop every hand, ****ing donk."
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04-29-2015 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by krazykarter
Now you've got me hoping that the developers added a 0.001% chance that the bot misreads the board, makes the wrong play, and walks away cursing.
Either that or a total "scared money" play.
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04-29-2015 , 04:14 PM
doug 75ss in bb, raise, 3 bet, call

Flop A92 1 spade, cbet, call. Turn 4 of spades. doug check/raise all in over a pot sized turn bet, bot fold. up 90k now.
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04-29-2015 , 04:27 PM
Dong with a sick bluff. AcK

he raised, bot 3 bet, he 4 bet, call.

377cc flop, bot leads 1/4th pot, call. turn 2, bot leads small, call. river 4c, bot bets 4200 into 13k, leaving 8k behind, dong bluff jams, bot folds.

Seem like the humans are really exploiting it bluffing too much/folding getting a good price
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04-29-2015 , 04:27 PM
So is this bot supposed to be improving? I was under that impression but it seems to be doing some things much worse.
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04-29-2015 , 04:32 PM
doug Q7cc

bot raised, he called.

Flop 367hh

min lead, raise, call

turn 7

min lead, call

river 9

min lead, bot shoves 19k into 2k. Doug tanks and calls. Bot has 53hh

Doug then says thats why he folded the set earlier.
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04-29-2015 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Masq
So is this bot supposed to be improving? I was under that impression but it seems to be doing some things much worse.
I think it improves by adjusting, but then the humans just adjust better to those adjustments. It def plays differently after it updates/"learns." The humans and in particular doug seem to be finding new exploits to its style all the time, doug is really in tune with what the bot is doing right now.
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04-29-2015 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Snuffers
How does Bot fold KdTh there?
If he folded there it seems pretty obvious that its strategy in that spot simply hasn't converged to equilibrium yet. In the hands it has played against itself (which is how it learned), it simply has not accumulated enough data to realize that calling is a dominant strategy to folding. Not really that surprising. Since Claudico is still far from GTO, there will be many of those spots. That one is just a bit more obvious to us humans.
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04-29-2015 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by feedmykids2
Doug then says thats why he folded the set earlier.
what do you mean by that? if he had thought the bot was bluffing earlier, he would have called with the set.

like what did he mean or what do you mean he meant?
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04-29-2015 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
what do you mean by that? if he had thought the bot was bluffing earlier, he would have called with the set.

like what did he mean or what do you mean he meant?
I didn't see the action on the set hand, but a flush came in and bot shoved huge, so most likely he knows that a bot can play a flush draw passively on the turn (as in this hand he had a pair and a flush draw and just called the min lead on the turn).

On this hand he called with trip 7s because he thought the bot could have a flush draw based on it's play, on the set hand he folded because he thought the bot could have a flush draw based on it's play (but the flush hit in that hand)

Ofc right after he made that comment he turned his mic off to talk strat with flushie so can't be sure, but I am guessing it's something like that.

Also, doug just snap called pot on the river with bottom pair and was good, he definitely knows the ranges the bot has realllllly well at this point.
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04-29-2015 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by feedmykids2
Dong with a sick bluff. AcK

he raised, bot 3 bet, he 4 bet, call.

377cc flop, bot leads 1/4th pot, call. turn 2, bot leads small, call. river 4c, bot bets 4200 into 13k, leaving 8k behind, dong bluff jams, bot folds.

Seem like the humans are really exploiting it bluffing too much/folding getting a good price
This was a bluff...? He has the best hand like almost always when the bot folds.
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04-29-2015 , 05:08 PM
Bot just called a river min bet with 6 high lol.
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04-29-2015 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by zizek
This was a bluff...? He has the best hand like almost always when the bot folds.
What else do you think it is? Do you think he value shoved in 4 bet pot over a guy who bet 3 streets with AK high?
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04-29-2015 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by feedmykids2
I didn't see the action on the set hand, but a flush came in and bot shoved huge, so most likely he knows that a bot can play a flush draw passively on the turn (as in this hand he had a pair and a flush draw and just called the min lead on the turn).

On this hand he called with trip 7s because he thought the bot could have a flush draw based on it's play, on the set hand he folded because he thought the bot could have a flush draw based on it's play (but the flush hit in that hand)

Ofc right after he made that comment he turned his mic off to talk strat with flushie so can't be sure, but I am guessing it's something like that.

Also, doug just snap called pot on the river with bottom pair and was good, he definitely knows the ranges the bot has realllllly well at this point.
got it, thx for explanation
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