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apologies if this has been covered already, but

the reason wcg & dong are seperated from flushie and cheet is because the computer is giving them the same hole cards flipped if that makes sense

eg

downstairs
hand 1 for wcg rider: AA .... hand 1 for robot: 77
hand 1 for donger: 72 .... hand 1 for robot: QQ

upstairs
hand 1 for asian flushie: 77 .... hand 1 for robot: AA
hand 1 for cheet: QQ .... hand 1 for robot: 72

etc

this way its a better indicator of skill since you cant totally claim runbad

i'm assuming they get the same runouts too

Thank you.
That explains some of the back-and-forth conversations.

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04-24-2015 , 05:09 PM

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this will be very interesting. hope we can see details of how each played each hand.

You can ... just have to watch all the streams

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04-24-2015 , 05:17 PM

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f0ld44

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are they seriously playing for 80k hands? This is gonna take weeks at this pace

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04-24-2015 , 05:23 PM

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Humans up 100k (blinds 50/100) after 2500 hands, WCG up 80k, Dong up 40k.
http://www.twitch.tv/claudico_vs_bjornli
http://www.twitch.tv/claudico_vs_dougpolk
http://www.twitch.tv/claudico_vs_dongkim
http://www.twitch.tv/claudico_vs_jasonles

edit: bjorn li just called a huge 19x pot ob shove w 2p and got shown straight. had A6 on A67 4 9 and got shown 85. in the same spot donger also huge obshoved river and bot called, but pot was a bit bigger.

edit2: wcg explaining why humans are superior to bots at nlhe.

edit3: wcg explains whenever he calls pre he mindonks flop.

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04-24-2015 , 05:25 PM

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04-24-2015 , 05:28 PM

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750 hands*4 humans per day = 3000 hands per day
80k/3k = 26.6 days

for how long did they play today? 6 hours? surely they won't be playing for 27 consecutive days. is there a schedule somewhere?

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04-24-2015 , 05:36 PM

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this is so good. GO HUMANS!

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04-24-2015 , 05:36 PM

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If they are getting the same reversed cards as well as runouts then there should be literally no complaints about runbad (in case there is 0 edge between wcg/donger/flushie/cheet, which is obv not the case but pretty close), esp over 80k hands.

In any case this is gonna be a complete bloodbath, gg bot, cya in 3 years.

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04-24-2015 , 05:42 PM

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f0ld44

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why did they put the pokerwise dumbest person on earth next to doug?

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04-24-2015 , 05:44 PM

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HamSellerSamHeller

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I was thinking about that as well. Is that one of the programmers behind the bot? How can he not know basic poker terminology

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04-24-2015 , 05:55 PM

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Lollll

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04-24-2015 , 05:56 PM

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"That's a Chris Ferguson move"

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04-24-2015 , 05:58 PM

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WCG is just fantastic.

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04-24-2015 , 06:00 PM

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I was thinking about that as well. Is that one of the programmers behind the bot? How can he not know basic poker terminology

Pretty sure that is Tuomas Sandholm, creator of the bot (team leader at CMU)

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04-24-2015 , 06:01 PM

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"That's a Chris Ferguson move"

"Post-oak-bluff"

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04-24-2015 , 06:03 PM

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You should never hit a man with glasses on....good thing Cheet recently got lasik!!

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04-24-2015 , 06:09 PM

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I'm rooting for humans so bad lol

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04-24-2015 , 06:15 PM

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Doug has made some huge all in bluffs

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04-24-2015 , 06:17 PM

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seidel cheerleading for the bots hard behind the velvet ropes.

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04-24-2015 , 06:18 PM

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Break soon after 3k hands total. Humans up what 65k+40k+10k-17k = 98k?

WCG says: One day AI will be a lot stronger than humans. One day. He's not going to hide in a cave and hope it goes away but rather be a part of the process. But he hopes it'll go away :P.

Doug rates the AI as 4 or 5 out of 10 if it was a reg at his normal tables. Programmer gets hurt and tries to defend himself by throwing crap at asianflushie. Programmer comaplins about how good WCG is running. "Oh top pair. Again? That's your signature move.".

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04-24-2015 , 06:18 PM

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are they getting paid out the amount of money they win off the bot?

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04-24-2015 , 06:19 PM

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MaxRhino

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So the stack sizes reset to 20k every hand?

What does everyone think about that? Doesn't really track to how a normal HUNL match would play obv. Does that matter though?