BEN86 IS CHARGED WITH THE FOLLOWING OFFENSES

1-STEALING COACHING
2-WELCHING BETS
3-USING A BOT
4-RIDING SIDE SADDLE

LET THE TRIAL BY NVG COMMENCE

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Ben in the Pod guessed if he had to come up for an hourly rate for coaching it would be about 20k/Hr if Doug coached amount he states sounds like Ben might owe him 150-300k based off his own evaluation and he did even state first few hours would be worth even more.

Thats for PLO though so NL only 10k/h bc only 2 cards

Bumped into Ben once in the venetian about two years ago, didn't speak a word to him, I was stood at the urinal, he came in and stood right next to me to pee even though there were a ton of empty ones. Thought it was pretty weird.

Rip Grainey

he tried this bulliing thing for once.

confirmed weirdo who needs to see a professional...

When i make it to highstakes remind me to never befriend another high stakes player, these guys are ****ed up!

no, you should def make friends and scam them.

whatever you guys think, its highly inappropriate to post personal stuff to try and make someone look weird fwiw. actually it puts you at risk of appearing socially awkward yourself
i dont really know what the purpose of the thread is, but it should just focus on the factual stuff in the wcg/ben and berri/ben/ike dispute if anything

as a funny side note, dont underestimate the capability of highstakes players to scam you, not the other way around. you would be surprised how sophisticated some of us can be

What was the outcome from the berrisweet/ben86 dispute? Be shocking if berri didn't get paid out the 40k otherwise it was one huge free roll for Ben

Completely spot on, great post

So a very rich guy takes advantage of others to get even richer, where's the news here?

This is well thought out and shouldn't be over looked. If you read the Skype log, it's clear to anyone familiar with xbooking what Ben86 implied. There is absolutely no way Ben would've agreed to a partial payment had Sauce won the match. This is not OK and questions Ben's ethics in his business dealings and should be discussed farther between both parties until fair settlement. I don't see why BERRI is not entitled for the full 40k. What matters here is Ben's writing of the xbook proposal and BERRI's agreement on the deal regardless of what the outcome and interpretation was. The bet is booked and it should be paid.

Spot on. WCG just showed everyone that he is an immature, spiteful and unprofessional person, who people should think twice before doing business with because he can suddenly snap and start shooting Trump style personal offenses all over the internet because he felt offended that for example someone has more money than him or doesn't like his hairstyle.

The evil empire have feelings too guys!

IMO Doug's in the right on the business side of things, but on the personal stuff, no need to air it publicly, this is a competitive game/sport where ego etc will most likely come into play and not everybody will get along


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Oh lol @ Jungle.

But hey, those few hours (max) of specific CAP insight that Ben got from the less than top CAP dog were insanely more valuable than the benefits of living with the HU NL top dog. I mean, your styles are totally different so his transformation to the top had little or nothing to do with your input and of course it was ok for him to later call you out and sit you when he had reached or gone beyond your level Through the roof irony.

Oh man.

Doug is overall a genuine good guy, just a drama queen who needs to realise that life is not a prom.

Ben is a good guy, just a bit too competitive and needs to chill and maybe give up the booze.

Ike is a good guy, but clearly his ability to be impartial is overrated.

Just kiss and make up. Seriously. Apologise in here to each other. Return some coaching favours, pay up on some bets (Berri situ), apologise for personal insults, meet up and don't booze just be adults and talk about how lucky you all are to have good work ethics and for having been in the right place at the right time re: poker. Life is good, girls and boys. Be grateful and be friends.

Actually, I propose that both of you come to Europe and volunteer together for a few weeks in a refugee camp. I'm serious. Wishful thinking that it might happen, but it would be the best solution.

I find it amusing how people chose ignore that it was actually Ben who started with the personal stuff. I do not think it is fair to Doug to blame him for this, it almost seems like an intentional needle... did you even read the OP and thread? Like wtf was he supposed to do when Ben started with this? Biased much?

Maybe I wasn't clear on my post.

Meant to read as:
Doug correct on business dealings and if you feel you get scammed or whatever then sure call someone out on it (after trying to resolve privately)

BOTH (not just Doug) should just lay off the personal side. IMO no need to bring any of that into this as overall it doesn't actually have an affect on the business side.

Evil empire comment was purely for comedy. I will try to be clearer in future


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let me get this straight...

ben who is supposed to be a genius cannot grasp the simple concept that it does not matter whether either party actually understands the bet after the bet has been booked?

reading from the chat the bet looks very straightforward- the only person that doesn't understand the bet was berri... but again it doesnt matter if he understood the bet or not after berri said book it.

that plo software isn't capable of solving this super complex problem yet ben??

theres really only two possibilities... ben is a ****ing moron... or ben was trying to scam berri.

Doug - attention seeking drama queen yes - highschool bully? more like he was bullied
Ben - has more than a touch of the private pyles about him - very sketchy
Ike - no idea how he ended up on a pedestal - seems quite shady
Jungle - the world would be a sadder place without him - if he had a reality show i'd watch it
Berri - owed $40k despite not understanding what he was betting on
Sidesaddle GTO dream machine - exists

If the YouTube video reaches 10k likes Doug Polk will change his hairstyle to something more age/era appropriate.

lol you think limon is a stand up guy?

you think rbk doesn't know how to chop a pot after playing who knows how many years of poker?

do you also think hc had no clue how to handle classified information after being a career politician/ high up?

People from USA always being so loud and shouting.. wwhhyyyy

I think limon is an experienced poker pro...an experienced poker pro is going to want the fun player to have the money unless it is going to them.

I have no idea how much live experience rbk has in split pot games where pots are chopped. I've seen plenty of experienced online players not have a clue on the mechanics of chopping pots when playing live. It's a good act if he is pulling an angle, I think it's more likely he thinks what he is saying is correct.