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Originally Posted by Two SHAE
You completely misunderstood, perhaps I was unclear.
I wasn't saying that they're equivalent statements, I'm saying they have a very similar impact on the person it is directed towards, given the context. (especially when the brag is said over and over again)
Think it's pretty ridic how gangbanged Ben is getting in this thread, it should be more even IMO.
If Doug posted:
-me and Ben had deal to exchange NL for PLO coaching
-I gave him NL coaching, he did not give me PLO coaching
-I didn't receive any other compensation and feel slighted
He'd have come off a lot better and I'd have never posted anything. All the other stuff is just really immature, and makes it look like the purpose of the post was revenge/character assassination. So I felt obligated to post about my positive experiences with Ben. Also find it extremely unlikely that Doug had no idea about Ben's NDA, because I knew about it and had MUCH less interaction with Ben.
I think you're moving the argument away from the crux of the problem. The personal things are superfluous (although still partially relevant), the main issue is agreeing on doing coaching and then backing out coupled with making himself completely unapproachable while still in the midst of a business relationship. And this is before we even approach the issue of the x-book with Berri (of which I think 90% of people disagree with your assessment of the situation).
Just so you know my position, I've had a fair few dealings with Doug, he has never been anything less than courteous and sincere. Others on here that suggest that he is akin to a high school bully couldn't be further from the mark, while I can't speak for him I am pretty certain that his view of bullies is they are as detestable as everyone elses. He told me about the Ben "I hate people who look like you" story maybe two years back, I have absolutely zero doubt to question whether it happened or not and it was clear that he was perturbed by it.
The reason that it feels like Ben is getting skewered in this thread is because 1) he is offering no rebuttals and 2) the accusations against him are both plausible (pulling out of coaching) and mounting (new berri discussion).
Last edited by pontylad; 09-05-2016 at 06:45 AM.
Reason: just so you know, i'm not trying to argue with you, i just disagree with you perspective here