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Originally Posted by 5=2+2
Nah man, you are totally biased towards your buddy.
Explain to me why he insisted a buddy be the arbitrator? Especially when he had previously discussed the situation with this arbitrator before that person became arbitrator and thus had influenced that person and knew his take on it all? When he had also likely (it seems) lied to this arbitrator regarding the details? When he was also having private discussions with the arbitrator without the other involved party? When there was a need for a new arbitrator why did he again insist it was a buddy of his? Maybe because he had again influenced this person e.g. the 20k? (wtf was that % of 20k instead of 40k about??)
Explain these things to me and how they don't at least show he was on the take and being damn shady about it all? This is clearly the case and if so then why? Why was he being shady? Maybe because he is an end boss HS pro with a few logical brain cells who knows which way the wind blows and therefore knows he should be paying up?
The perception that I'm jumping in here to "defend my buddy" and am biased are ridiculous. I'm evaluating the facts on their own merits. I know Ben roughly on the same level I knew Doug, which is frankly not that much (talked online some, met in Vanc, hung out a few times over the course of a few months, didn't really stay in touch after -- all of that is true of my relationship with both of them).
I don't want to respond point by point but I thought it was common knowledge that Ben/Ike were friends so I agree he clearly should not have been an arbitrator, regardless of whether or not they talked about it privately. It was a poor choice, but on the other hand, BERRI should have just dismissed it immediately. The problem is it's probably hard to find an arbitrator because the high stakes community is full of people with existing relationships, ie, it'd be hard to find someone who was a) had no relationship with either party b) part of the community enough to understand the situation
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Originally Posted by thefinchster22
I don't think this is obvious at all based on the chat. Your only reason for saying this is that Berri said "gogo", correct?
Right, but since everyone agrees that Berri's misunderstanding was kinda unreasonable and Ben's intentions were clear
Firstly, correct me if I'm wrong, but English is not BERRI's first language? I don't think his misunderstanding is unreasonable at all. In fact, since Ben mentioned the thing about how rake was being handled, it made it seem like Trueteller was a party to the bet which makes BERRI's misunderstanding even more reasonable. I understand the "gogo" thing is kind of tenuous but in my experience, people who make a bet tend to say something like "good luck" whereas when someone buys a piece and is rooting for someone saying something like "gogo" is a lot more common. But I think that in conjunction with the rake thing makes BERRI's misinterpretation of what Ben wanted totally reasonable. I agree Ben's intentions were clear, but I don't think that's enough to say he should owe BERRI the 40k (or any portion thereof), since clearly it was not BERRI's intention to bet against Sauce with Ben.
Assuming neither of them are lying, had they made the intentions more clear, there would have been no crossbook at all, since BERRI wanted to bet the same side as Ben.
Last edited by Two SHAE; 09-04-2016 at 10:04 PM.