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Originally Posted by Two SHAE
ugh I just wrote a long post but accidentally refreshed page via keyboard and lost it. Now the cliffs version because I'm too tilted to re-write.
-I lived at Shangri La during the beginning of this story and interacted with both Ben and Doug. Doug arrived there sometimes in August or Sept 2013, I think.
-Met Ben for first time in Vegas that summer, while I was planning on moving to Vancouver. He was very helpful on all things Vancouver -- told me places to look for apartments, gym to join, where to get my hair cut, gave me CAD for USD and even walked with me to show me where the bank was. He was never anything but pleasant and was especially helpful to me for someone I barely knew.
-the 500/1k cap thing -- who cares? No one is making you play, just sit out. Worst case is you play 2 hands.
-when you talk in the video about being excited about building a relationship with Ben, you do a good job of making it sound like your primary interest is learning how to play PLO, getting good pieces, etc. Not saying there's anything wrong with that, but just how it sounds to an outside observer when you talk about it.
-you mention not wanting to involve other people, yet you out things he allegedly said about Galfond/Don? And his secret software? Why? Why did you post this in the first place?
-him backing out of coaching deal is ****ty, but to me it seems careless, not malicious. You probably should have worked out some compensation at the time, but it sounds like you didn't bring that up?
-the night everything blew up just sounds like people were drunk, egos were being flexed, and **** got out of hand. Relatively standard stuff.
-the really personal stuff has no place in this thread/on the internet.
500/1k cap - I am surprised you don't understand this. I understand that no one is making me play, but to have the audacity to pull a move like that after getting my thoughts on the subject is clearly malicious.
Our relationship, this is also not the case, as after he did screw me over in our deal I maintained a relationship with him.
I said I did not want to involve what other people have said here, only what Ben said. It is different to say "Ben said X about Y person" then to say "Y person said X about Ben". I did not throw anyone else's personal opinions on Ben under the bus here.
The night where Ben blew up on me was not "relatively standard stuff". Relatively standard stuff does not include telling people you hate people that look like them, you have more money then them, and that people like you don't have wait around for people like them.
The personal stuff I didn't even take the first shot. Ben says "Ok I guess we are going to do this" and then piles into a bunch of personal issues in regards to our story. Here he makes some stuff up, omits details, and some aspects are just lies. My first post was only dealing with our professional encounter.
I am not willing to just stand around and watch someone write up a pile of total bull**** to try to make me look bad.