if he's making 20k he also wouldn't care about our opinions on him.

i wouldn't be shocked if these guys collude and his "horses" are definitely getting a really bad deal.

You obviously you didn't read the article where powers ask floor managers if they could play in same game and he says no. They know who the horses are and he doesn't need to collude anyways. He's pretty good at the pokers and when you play in a game with Kevin heart and Phelps, that kind of money isn't hard to make I'd bet

This. Great popcorn reading. Never ceases to amaze me how many judgemental people are out there about those who don't work a regular job (I do BTW).

Seriously? If he's taking half of all the action in his 'group' and they are playing with whales on a regular basis I can easily see him making that much.

If that were actually true he would have just refused to do the article. It isn't a dollar amount that allows you to step into yourself and stop caring about the opinions of others, it's an internal feeling/knowing. If he has an ulterior motive of trying to get a TV show or something like that then I get it but beyond that the article doesn't shine a good light on him going forward into a casino he wants to milk for a healthy profit.

You seem to think that high stakes games run around the clock every day, that staking is easy, and that poker players never lie about their wins.

i dont understand how whether or not someone cares i think they're a douche, has any affect on me thinking they are a douche

we don't out whales, we don't brag about how easy it is to take money from our most valuable and appreciated clientele just bc we want some dickwads reading the post to think we ball

good year playing 5/10 to 20/50+ depending on what runs: 300k

taking 30-50% of a horse that plays 2/5 to 5/10 and 10/20 if its a great game: anywhere from 30k-50k a year per horse

have 5 people in your stable: between 400k-800k not unreasonable given variance of a year's worth of poker

obv this calc gets ruined if nothing bigger than 10/20 runs but my impression was you'd get a year of biggish games running somewhat regularly and around the clock 5/10 and 10/20

And horses never lose, or lie. No one ever runs bad or has leaks you didn't anticipate. Somehow he knows a bunch of horses that are strong winning players, but somehow so bad at bankroll management they pay him $50k per year so they don't have to keep a $50k bankroll.

And he buys into his "high stakes" games for $500.

Super douche. Always posting in fb group "RealGrinders"

Same guy who wrote this article
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.ce2750b03af8


So maybe this is some sort of paid advertisement or a hack journalist

Redic of this guy to out himself as a predator of whales and a manager of a team. The very people you most want to pick off are the very people most likely to misunderstand the situation. I can already hear those with poor reading skills (most people) saying "the WaPo said they were cheating."

Also redic to tell the local criminals that you have a group house full of guys likely to have wads of cash on them, in Ft Wash, with a view of the U-Haul.

They are probably safer than you suggest:

Discussing the high stakes action serves as bait. It might hurt his stable's income, but it will draw in big egos hoping to bust him.

Jigsaw, you're presuming criminals are smart enough to know that, or care. You're also presuming that the quote about boxes is true. You're also presuming that the guys never get sloppy about using the boxes.

I'm sure there's no cash or chips or nice things in the house

I wonder if these guys are laundering money, I mean nobody is getting proper tax forms or paying taxes so it's gotta be illegal

LOL, no. Everything he said was bad for his games. No one goes to the casino to "bust" anyone. They go to play poker, have fun, and hopefully win monies. Rich businessmen don't want to go where teams of sharks are bragging about waiting for them. They want to play where they think they have a chance.

It's like he doesn't even know his customers. Whales don't figure out how much they lose gambling by doing their taxes.

To add to this, players rarely keep all of their bankroll in their boxes. At most places it's a hassle to sign in and out to get access to your box. So you usually carry a few buyins with you, and when you win more you stop the box on your way out to drop off the extra. Or if you bust the buyins you have you take a break from your game to hit your box. You don't want to have to get money out before you play every day, esp.if sometimes you are rushing in to get one of last seats in juicy game.

If he really does play high stakes games he could be walking around with $10k or $20k on him sometimes. There is a bit of thought a high stakes gambler needs to put into security, broadcasting who you are and where you live isn't part of it.

exactly this. this clown is trying to act like some kind of super baller so he can keep suckering in new blood to cut him in on their winnings but doesn't realize this stuff is really bad for the game.

Cringiest part of the article?

All Desert Cat's posts itt seem spot on.

Didnt read the article but i know Chad and he was a loser in the 10 25 at live...the regs love to see him in the game! Most of his stable are 2-5 chad power fan boys that he cons into living at his place so he can live basically rent free. They are barely winning players that he keeps afloat with his bankroll. Anyone that can play is not going to give half there winnings for to long.

Hes no champion but he knows that and only plays in games that he knows he is a favorite in. That really limits his high stakes play these days because the games are pretty tough at that level.

Personally I go to my box twice per day that I play, once at the beginning and once at the end, and never go in or leave with money. Personal security is worth 5 minutes per day IMO.

Alright which one of you mad men wrote this comment on the article?