LoL @ this Matt Vaughan quote. This guy has lived a real tough life.

Wow. If he really wrote those, he is not just a naive fool who lucked into tom's naive generosity, but an actively manipulative scammer.

In his video he made it seem like Tom independently came up with the idea to send him the money, when he was really the one more or less demanding it and implying that "honoring the chop" is honorable thing to do.

This whole thing is a travesty and it's so sad a seemingly super honorable guy is the victim.

I feel like honoring the chop was the right thing to do from Tom's perspective. I'm not sure why people disagree with that.

1. Would he have taken the chop in the first place if he knew there was a good chance Matt would be disqualified? No way he done that because even if he doesn't win it outright, there's a good chance he'd win it later due to tos violations.

2. Would Matt have still paid him out if Ignition didn't bump everyone up a pay slot but rather just didn't pay him? Or if they decided to refund his amount to everyone, ie 130k gets divided amongst all who played? Not saying they would or should, just pointing out exactly why it was a freeroll because there's no way Matt goes into pocket to make the chop right if Tom were never upgraded from 2nd place money.

Tom got owned here because his true equity was far more than the chip amount because Matt didn't disclose that there was a good chance he would be disqualified. Matt should have been upfront and included that information but witheld it, but given how stupidly he's acted this entire time, he probably legit has no idea how much of a scumbag move he pulled and still views himself as the victim here.

Because Matt didn't tell him he was breaking ToS when they were discussing a chop. If Tom knew there was a chance he already won the tourney that would impact the deal.

I was an early follower of Matt's and it's just sad to see what he has turned into. The constantly portraying himself as a victim is pretty bad, but now he's coming pretty damn close to just being a scumbag. The twitter stuff makes him look way worse.

FWIW I thought it sounded in the video like Matt said he told Tom at the time of the chop that there's a chance he may get disqualified

I just watched it again and there's nothing that sounds like that. Matt only says he fully disclosed the situation after he already won the tournament.

It probably is really exhausting, when a huge part of your interactions consist of deflecting attention from your cognitive incapabilities while pretending to know the concepts/words you're using.

I actually despise this guy now after those screenshots

I don't have the time to watch these videos, so I'm not sure I understand the situation here correctly, but this only happened, because he streamed, right? Or would he have been caught anyway?

Sorry i cant answer... i dont have time to watch the videos either, i have a really important life

classic by his own admission this was beyond moronic and the dumbest thing he's ever done.
but yea most people would do the same thing lmao

most people don't want to live their entire life on the internet. but even if you do streaming yourself cheating is comical. fwiw i don't think he actually gained an advantage but breaking the tos live streaming is really special.

1)bc Tom is completely getting free rolled. This is by far the most important part.
2) Tom did nothing wrong
3) everyone else moves up a place bc Matt got DQed. Obviously Tom can't move up but why should he be the one person to lose money bc of the dq?

wow thats crazy

Tom finished 2nd but since Matt got DQed ignition moved Tom up and paid him first place money. So he's not losing money because of the DQ. In fact he's making 5k because of the DQ, because that's the amount they agreed to play for and Tom got 2nd. But since Matt was DQed Tom determined he deserved to win the 5k they were playing heads up for.

After thinking about it more I think you guys are right about Tom not having to honor the deal. Because the deal was made in bad faith on Matt's part because he was knowingly breaking TOS by playing on his friend's account after being banned already.

Had Matt finished 2nd and not won it he would have expected to get chop money from Tom (probably without mentioning to Tom that he was DQed). Since he got 1st but was DQed he's still expecting Tom to pay him out. So either way Tom has to pay out Matt for the chop? Whether he wins or loses the heads up? Yeah that's not fair.

It's a sticky situation for Tom though. Because even if the majority agree he shouldn't have to honor the chop deal some people are going to find it scummy. Matt put him in a lose/lose situation in more ways than one.

this guy shouldnt have see'n a penny, unfortunately there are still naive honorable people out there

He's a poker player....

Well, you know Matt would have put the guy on blast if he didn't pay up.

Wow, that Tweet. For a vlogger, this guy has quite a fragile sensibility for what "people on the internet" think of him.

Sure, it's both easy and unfair to judge a person based purely on their worst moments. We all make mistakes. But he has also deliberately chosen to put a large part of his life online for public consumption, which means he is looking for an audience to celebrate his better moments with him. We all have victories, too, but we don't go out of our way to seek approbation for it.

Tough crowd? Sure. But Matt, I'll put this into poker parlance: sometimes the people on the internet have to "balance their range."

Did you miss the bit where he entered a tourney that he shouldn't have been able to, probably busted people who otherwise would have finished further up the ladder, and then got paid cash by the eventual winner?

Yeh but I don’t even care about that. 46 states can play and 4 can’t. Whatever.

Especially when you can have an address in a previous state and be allowed to play in a banned state even if you live there...

Like I can drive 2 hours across the NJ border and play on bovada 24/7 despite I live in NY.

I think only if he busted on his account and exhausted the rebuys and entered on a friends account would I care.

yet i'm sure if it were a US only site and a russian was vpning in it was be a big deal

likewise, would you also draw the line at non colluding bots?

This fool won a big flip (we were top 5 stacks) against me with 20ish players left last year on Ignition. Ended up winning the tourney. Apparently he wasn't allowed to play in Maryland or whatever. Not sure he actually got the money. Definitely annoying though. And more annoying he's doing something shady again. How hard is it to folllow rules?

Comparing other countries competing on US only sites or sites that accept 95% of US states is not the same.

I would not want Russians VPNing on a US player pool

Again, the fact that you can have an address in a non banned state, and stay in that “banned” state and play WITHOUT a vpn is ridiculous and proves why it’s a joke.

you miss the point, those violations are literally no different, you're just drawing the line here at states rather than nationality/robot

once you begin justifying tos violations because you personally don't see the point you go down a slippery slope

first we also say it's ok for canadians to play as well since they are 51st state, then extend that to all western democracies etc etc

there are tons of people who think it's fine to play against bots, there's tons of badly programmed bots - you can't argue that bots are ok as long as they aren't well designed etc etc