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Old 07-18-2013, 10:43 PM   #126
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Re: Vladimir Geshkenbein finishes 62nd in ME and scams his backers

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A quick statement from my side:

The thread title is obv. ridicolous and false.

If i indeed wanted to scam anyone I would just not fkn communicate at all with anyone. Are you guys ******ed?

I have very clearly cancelled the action for the Main Event, before it started. Obv. this was not a gentleman thing to do and i apoligized and still do apoligize. But I wanted you to understand the reasons of why I did it, thats why i posted a long post reveleaning that my financial situation is not the best etc. etc. I deeply regret doing this. Should've just cancelled it and not said why, wouldn't have been such a pain in the ass that way.

When I posted this i made very clear that the action is cancelled & everybody will get the ME Action refunded, including Markup obv. As an apology I am now refunding the whole Main Event action at double markup, but some people never get their mouths full, eh?

Some people are trying to freeroll me now and demand shares of the ME in which i luckily got to cash, which is obv. not gonna happen.

You come off as as much of a dbag here as you do on TV, wp
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:28 PM   #127
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Some people are trying to freeroll me now and demand shares of the ME in which i luckily got to cash, which is obv. not gonna happen.
Did you refund their buyins before you played the main? How were you going to pay them back if you didn't cash?
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Old 07-19-2013, 12:06 AM   #128
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Re: Vladimir Geshkenbein finishes 62nd in ME and scams his backers

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Did you refund their buyins before you played the main? How were you going to pay them back if you didn't cash?
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Old 07-19-2013, 12:46 AM   #129
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Re: Vladimir Geshkenbein finishes 62nd in ME and scams his backers

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Did you refund their buyins before you played the main? How were you going to pay them back if you didn't cash?
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Old 07-19-2013, 01:18 AM   #130
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Some people are trying to freeroll me now and demand shares of the ME in which i luckily got to cash, which is obv. not gonna happen.
they are trying to freeroll you now? wow what a bunch of scumbags
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Old 07-19-2013, 02:04 AM   #131
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Re: Vladimir Geshkenbein finishes 62nd in ME and scams his backers

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A quick statement from my side:

The thread title is obv. ridicolous and false.

If i indeed wanted to scam anyone I would just not fkn communicate at all with anyone. Are you guys ******ed?

I have very clearly cancelled the action for the Main Event, before it started. Obv. this was not a gentleman thing to do and i apoligized and still do apoligize. But I wanted you to understand the reasons of why I did it, thats why i posted a long post reveleaning that my financial situation is not the best etc. etc. I deeply regret doing this. Should've just cancelled it and not said why, wouldn't have been such a pain in the ass that way.

When I posted this i made very clear that the action is cancelled & everybody will get the ME Action refunded, including Markup obv. As an apology I am now refunding the whole Main Event action at double markup, but some people never get their mouths full, eh?

Some people are trying to freeroll me now and demand shares of the ME in which i luckily got to cash, which is obv. not gonna happen.
degen scumbag luckbox donktard fishcake fraudster

you should be in a gulag in siberia
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Old 07-19-2013, 02:23 AM   #132
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Played w this guy for most of day 3. He was drinking heavily and ran out of money to tip the cocktail people, so he started bumming bucks off people at the table.
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Old 07-19-2013, 02:28 AM   #133
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truly a degenyabeyn
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Old 07-19-2013, 05:34 AM   #134
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Re: Vladimir Geshkenbein finishes 62nd in ME and scams his backers

In response to your statement....

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The thread title is obv. ridicolous and false.

If i indeed wanted to scam anyone I would just not fkn communicate at all with anyone. Are you guys ******ed?

I have very clearly cancelled the action for the Main Event, before it started. Obv. this was not a gentleman thing to do and i apoligized and still do apoligize. But I wanted you to understand the reasons of why I did it, thats why i posted a long post reveleaning that my financial situation is not the best etc. etc. I deeply regret doing this. Should've just cancelled it and not said why, wouldn't have been such a pain in the ass that way.

When I posted this i made very clear that the action is cancelled & everybody will get the ME Action refunded, including Markup obv. As an apology I am now refunding the whole Main Event action at double markup, but some people never get their mouths full, eh?

Some people are trying to freeroll me now and demand shares of the ME in which i luckily got to cash, which is obv. not gonna happen.
The title of the thread was edited by a Mod and not what I put. However that is immaterial because it is not ridiculous (appreciate English is not your mother tongue) nor is it false. You went into this and sold a package knowing full well you had liabilities elsewhere and no guarantees of this supposed 25k coming in.

What if you didn't cash in the ME how were you going to pay the backers back for the tournies you did cash in? IIRC you said you would have to get a job and pay them off over time? That money you gained by cashing in those tournies was not yours to degen off, it was your backers money, simple as.

you have been deceitful and not been fully transparent at any point in this. As for you communcating clearly, you shut off all forms of communication and tried to dictate terms to your backers otherwise they would get nothing in return, that is muggy and shows exactly the type of person you are.

You say that you wanted to let people know the reasons you cancelled the ME action, well this is what you should have told backers pre package to let them make an informed decision on whether to risk THEIR money on you an apology doesnt cut it.

Oh and the only ****** here is you, your reputation is further in tatters than what it was with your previous degen carry on, this thread will live on in NVG and I hope everyone sees it and no-one backs you in the future, the game is a lot better without scamming mugs like you.

Oh, just one more thing, the definition of scam is as follows, let me know if you still think the thread title is incorrect.

n., v. scammed, scam•ming. n.
1. a fraudulent scheme; swindle.
v.t.
2. to cheat; defraud.
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Old 07-19-2013, 05:36 AM   #135
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Just google imaged him, played w/ him deep in 1k reentry, he was also drinking heavily then and came across as a huge dbag. Was angling and talking about how there was no such thing as karma, showed no remorse for the stunts he was pulling.
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Old 07-19-2013, 06:35 AM   #136
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Re: Vladimir Geshkenbein finishes 62nd in ME and scams his backers

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Played w this guy for most of day 3. He was drinking heavily and ran out of money to tip the cocktail people, so he started bumming bucks off people at the table.
Lol same thing happened when he was at my table day 2.

I will say while obviously his actions are quite shady the piling on that goes on here does leave a bad taste in my mouth. For someone that drinks and presumably gambles like this they aren't exactly in control and are probably in need of help. I can understand the argument that public shaming is one method of controlling behavior but perhaps a little compassion towards those with problems would be helpful too. If we as a community more openly pushed for treatment perhaps not as many guys would dig as deep a hole for themselves.
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Old 07-19-2013, 06:40 AM   #137
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Re: Vladimir Geshkenbein finishes 62nd in ME and scams his backers

lol I work at a rehab center and I still don't buy your "compassion" plea. Guy is just a dick and the genetic component / illness status of addiction doesn't excuse that... if that even is the case here
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Old 07-19-2013, 06:42 AM   #138
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:53 AM   #139
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Re: Vladimir Geshkenbein finishes 62nd in ME and scams his backers

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A quick statement from my side:

The thread title is obv. ridicolous and false.

If i indeed wanted to scam anyone I would just not fkn communicate at all with anyone. Are you guys ******ed?

I have very clearly cancelled the action for the Main Event, before it started. Obv. this was not a gentleman thing to do and i apoligized and still do apoligize. But I wanted you to understand the reasons of why I did it, thats why i posted a long post reveleaning that my financial situation is not the best etc. etc. I deeply regret doing this. Should've just cancelled it and not said why, wouldn't have been such a pain in the ass that way.

When I posted this i made very clear that the action is cancelled & everybody will get the ME Action refunded, including Markup obv. As an apology I am now refunding the whole Main Event action at double markup, but some people never get their mouths full, eh?

Some people are trying to freeroll me now and demand shares of the ME in which i luckily got to cash, which is obv. not gonna happen.
Gimme som' dat drugs u on, pls? Can't believe you even have the audacity to accuse pple that rightfully own - even from a legal perspective - shares, of freerolling you. Are you really that dumb to think u can just cancel action onesided, without paying back the sold equity upfront?

You're very lucky that you sold that package to a bunch of absolute mongloids, coz anyone w more than a peanutsized brain would be suing your russian ass 'til there are no cheeks left to sit on.

What a total disgrace you are to poker. May you run bad forever.

Scambag.
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Old 07-19-2013, 08:10 AM   #140
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Re: Vladimir Geshkenbein finishes 62nd in ME and scams his backers

Vladimir Geshkenbein knows it's immoral to let a sucker keep his money
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Old 07-19-2013, 09:28 AM   #141
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Lol same thing happened when he was at my table day 2.

I will say while obviously his actions are quite shady the piling on that goes on here does leave a bad taste in my mouth. For someone that drinks and presumably gambles like this they aren't exactly in control and are probably in need of help. I can understand the argument that public shaming is one method of controlling behavior but perhaps a little compassion towards those with problems would be helpful too. If we as a community more openly pushed for treatment perhaps not as many guys would dig as deep a hole for themselves.
Are you for real? This thread serves only one purpose for me and that is too warn others of his actions and to do so factually so they dont get turned over and scammed by Vladimir further down the road because he isn't in control as you put it. As for the public shaming, well that is one obvious side effect but that is not my doing now is it?
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Old 07-19-2013, 09:55 AM   #142
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Re: Vladimir Geshkenbein finishes 62nd in ME and scams his backers

cliffs anyone?
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:27 AM   #143
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Re: Vladimir Geshkenbein finishes 62nd in ME and scams his backers

"Beynando, beynando - staker adios, adios - el degenerado!"

Wish i came up with that one myself.

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Old 07-19-2013, 10:37 AM   #144
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Re: Vladimir Geshkenbein finishes 62nd in ME and scams his backers

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I'm against mark ups, I feel alot of MUs are completely unjustified and players have jumped on the markup bandwagon as they are so full of self importance and delluded by their actual ev/roi in a given tournament. Poker has never been so tough, live tournaments are such ridiculous variance beasts that it seems like daylight robbery to charge a markup. Alot of people have been getting away with it and others have cottoned onto that and the fact people will pay it so whatever, but its certainly saved me alot of money buying %s of people, I simply wont anymore.
I always love when notorious bumhunters start acting like a moral compass in anything poker related.
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:44 AM   #145
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cliffs anyone?
- Beyne sells shares in a WSOP package at a 1.6 MU
- Plays all events till the ME
- 3 hours before starting in the ME he admits to being lifebusto, bank closed account bc overdrafts, his most valuable possession is his mobile phone etc.
- Admits to have gambled and 'ballert' away part of the staking money.
- Unilateral breaks his staking deal to play the ME without giving backers the opportunity to react etc
- Beyne plays the ME with a new unknown backer.
- According to original backers the deal still stands, beyne sold wsop packages including ME, and he is playing the ME.
- Discussion if Beyne had enough money to play all the events in the first place.
- Finishes 62nd place
- Original backers rightfully demand their share of the prizemoney, Beyne accuses them of freerolling lol.

Or summarized in one picture.

Did I miss something?
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:53 AM   #146
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Re: Vladimir Geshkenbein finishes 62nd in ME and scams his backers

He doesn't have a drinking problem... He's Russian!

Any proof of there actually being another person that backed him? Story would get epic if it turns out he just binked a sattelite for the main event, didn't tell anyone and decided to keep 100% of his own action and try to go for his 'one time'
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Old 07-19-2013, 11:03 AM   #147
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^^^^^^^^^^

Agree with complexion. How did he get backing into main? Conversation must have went like this...


Degen : I need a backer into the main event
Backer: didn't you already cash a few events and already have backing?
Degen: yes but I degened away all that money and my 10k main even buy in.
Backer: even your backers money?
Degen: yes, all of if, every cent. But for you I will reduce mark up to 1.5
Backer : 1.5 sounds like a bargain. Can I just give you the 10k in Rio casino chips?
Degen: yeah that would be fine.



For him to have even .1% credibility he should prove backer and payment
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Old 07-19-2013, 11:25 AM   #148
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Scumbag beyne
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Old 07-19-2013, 11:50 AM   #149
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+1

Beyn?
I just noticed he is a coach on cardcoaches, which is Strassmanns site. He should know its very bad news for his site.


@ Geshkenbein, you are Russian like me right? You know you got lucky you are scamming/not paying here some nerds, who are unable or scared to talk to you face to face and kick the **** out of you for as long as you gonna agree to pay them as you should + 100% more for being a dick.

You know that's exactly what would happen in Russia. Can you really go to sleep and be happy spending stolen money? Think about it, it's not worth it. You won't find peace for your heart this way.
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Old 07-19-2013, 12:29 PM   #150
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I just noticed he is a coach on cardcoaches, which is Strassmanns site. He should know its very bad news for his site.


@ Geshkenbein, you are Russian like me right? You know you got lucky you are scamming/not paying here some nerds, who are unable or scared to talk to you face to face and kick the **** out of you for as long as you gonna agree to pay them as you should + 100% more for being a dick.

You know that's exactly what would happen in Russia. Can you really go to sleep and be happy spending stolen money? Think about it, it's not worth it. You won't find peace for your heart this way.
I dont think he will be anymore, just dropped Markus and Johannes a message
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