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11-08-2011 , 11:47 PM

jspill

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Some interesting discussion on twitter right now about the hole card format, seemed threadworthy

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11-08-2011 , 11:49 PM

the1macdaddy

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fwiw i agree with gobbomom...although PH is more entertaining then Antonio in regards to commentating

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11-08-2011 , 11:52 PM

3betdegen

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INCREDIBLE boring i love watching poker or i use to but i can watch that crap.I was getting burned on it even when i could see the hole cards.

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11-08-2011 , 11:59 PM

apology7

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I don't understand why they cant show the hole cards during the hand. It's much more interesting to see all of the players cards before the river.

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11-09-2011 , 12:01 AM

jspill

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I enjoy it personally as a non-casual fan... but remember the first time I ever saw poker on TV when i was new to the game... it had no hole cards and I changed channel, surprised that anyone would want to watch something so boring

^This idea is pretty interesting

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11-09-2011 , 12:05 AM

Planetist

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Does anybody have a link to a non poker forum that is following this? Would be interesting to see how they see it.

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11-09-2011 , 12:11 AM

Bluffzorz

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I found it really interesting. Much rather watch what I saw then the shove and pray type stuff from previous years.

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11-09-2011 , 12:12 AM

the1macdaddy

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Originally Posted by apology7

I don't understand why they cant show the hole cards during the hand. It's much more interesting to see all of the players cards before the river.

its a Nevada gaming commission law...i believe they explained it before...something about protecting teh integrity of the game

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11-09-2011 , 12:13 AM

alwaysjam

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Originally Posted by Planetist

Does anybody have a link to a non poker forum that is following this? Would be interesting to see how they see it.

Why would a non-poker forum even be following this?

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11-09-2011 , 12:18 AM

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Planetist

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Originally Posted by alwaysjam

Why would a non-poker forum even be following this?

Two guys are gambling for millions of dollars. I watched TV poker before i ever played a hand.

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11-09-2011 , 12:33 AM

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IamPro

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Originally Posted by Bluffzorz

I found it really interesting. Much rather watch what I saw then the shove and pray type stuff from previous years.

and this is why the fish love it

don't take the drama out for the fish

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11-09-2011 , 12:42 AM

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MauvaisOeil

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recreational viewers suck

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11-09-2011 , 12:48 AM

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hotwings18

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my roommates who dont like poker are pissed i am watching this on the tv cuz they cant follow the line of thinking without the whole cards...

hole cards are needed for this to be mainstream...

gotta go live and somehow sequester players and audience...

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11-09-2011 , 01:02 AM

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MrPringlesAK

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Originally Posted by MauvaisOeil

recreational viewers suck

I beg to differ...

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11-09-2011 , 01:06 AM

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OBTrice420

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I like the idea of having the live stream payperview and then espn just do a ****ty edited version

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11-09-2011 , 01:10 AM

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aTTa

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I'm not a recreational viewer and I found it incredibly boring as hell and had to change the channel 40 minutes in.

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11-09-2011 , 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MauvaisOeil

recreational viewers suck

this

they should go back deposit instead of whining. love that format

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11-09-2011 , 01:22 AM

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jspill

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Originally Posted by Planetist

Does anybody have a link to a non poker forum that is following this? Would be interesting to see how they see it.

all i can find is 2 comments on an ESPN blog article

i'm hoping the concern about fish being bored is a bit of an over-reaction, and the new WSOP format proves to be a positive development, once casual fans get used to it

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11-09-2011 , 01:33 AM

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bennymacca

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that first comment in the above post is right imo, the casual fan loves to be able to scream "fold" at the TV or vice versa. they need to be able to put the hole cards up whilst the hand is being played out

even if that means going to a 1 hour delay but showing hole cards "live" i think that is a much better option than a 15 min delay with hole cards at the end of the hand

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11-09-2011 , 01:39 AM

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crtsports

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I love this format but then again I am not a casual poker fan.

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11-09-2011 , 01:39 AM

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short1001

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I was bored out of my mind and could only stand to watch a few mins. Bring back the card cam and I still probably wouldn't watch anyway.

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11-09-2011 , 01:52 AM

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DunlopFuzzy

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Originally Posted by alwaysjam

Why would a non-poker forum even be following this?

Lot of Penn State and general college football boards were pissy that all the JoePa news was moved to the deuce.

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11-09-2011 , 02:02 AM

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VS_PKR

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If you're not a "recreational viewer", what are you? A professional viewer?

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11-09-2011 , 02:23 AM

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Maso777

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Originally Posted by the1macdaddy

its a Nevada gaming commission law...i believe they explained it before...something about protecting teh integrity of the game

It would be an easy fix to delay the television feed by 5-10 minutes. If they aren't showing the hole cards it makes it unwatachable to all casuals, and even a lot of poker players will find it boring.

Until they get the hole cards back, ratings are going to blow.

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11-09-2011 , 02:33 AM

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browser2920

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My wife was watching with me, not quite as interested. But after a couple of hours, she asked "when is this over?". When I explained that it's live and could go on for hours, she quit watching. She said "who would spend so much time watching and not even know when it's over?".

I think the open-endedness of a live game will kill the recreational audience.

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