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Sorry, I hadn't gone back to the thread since I'd replied. You say you've spent money on training. Since your main game is 5c, have you spent money to get better at 5c? I only ask because it's clear to me you haven't seen those 5c AA vids...

This is why I respond to your 5c hands. That and I love talking about 5c/6c PLO

Yes I watched those videos and I’ve spent money on 5c training multiple times. I wanted to hear what other experienced players think which is why I posted the AA question.

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07-12-2022 , 12:22 PM

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ejames209

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Solvers will tell you what to do, but they won't tell you why, so in many spots you will still be lost as you can't just memorize all the solutions, you need to be able to compartmentalize the patterns with abstractions.

Also, solver outputs are only as reliable as solver inputs. If your ranges suck, don't conform to the rake structure properly, and your sizings suck then whatever solution the solver spits out is gonna suck and if you study it your game could actually get worse.

Talking to people to try to make sense of solutions still has a lot of value so I think strategy forums and groups will still be around.

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07-12-2022 , 01:31 PM

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donkatruck

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Originally Posted by sixfour

solvers will tell you how to play perfect defensive poker but they won't tell you a ****ing thing about how to exploit opponents which is where money is actually made

I only regret having 1 like button for this post.

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07-12-2022 , 05:30 PM

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ejames209

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Originally Posted by sixfour

solvers will tell you how to play perfect defensive poker but they won't tell you a ****ing thing about how to exploit opponents which is where money is actually made

Sure they will. You can just node lock to edit IP or OOP's decisions. If you want to solve for playing vs a nit, take out a few bluff combos. You will see drastically different strategies from the default output.

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