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Old 01-31-2009, 01:46 PM   #1
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View: Roulette vs. WSOP

To win a large tournament you have to win multiple coin flips correct? I don't think there is many tournament players who would disagree, especially as the field gets larger.

Instead you should just take your buy-in and play roulette.

EX:

10k on red or black > 20k
20k > 40k
40k > 80k
80k > 160k (withdraw 20k if you want to min-cash here)
160k > 320k
320k > 640k
640k > milionaire+

There that is 7 coinflips and you win a million. Except it takes 10 minutes as a opposed to two weeks. You also don't have to soil the reputation of a great game (NL hold'em) by playing a ridiculous format. You can also adjust your buy-in for the tournament you were going to play, $1500, rebuy events if you lose the first spin, etc.

Of course there is the problem of table limits but I'm sure something could be worked out with a casino.

I'm pretty sure ~90% of the field would be better off this way. Therefore WSOR>WSOP.
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:55 PM   #2
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rofl
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:05 PM   #3
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Re: View: Roulette vs. WSOP

what about the edge the casino has?
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:29 PM   #4
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Re: View: Roulette vs. WSOP

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I'm pretty sure ~90% of the field would be better off this way. Therefore WSOR>WSOP.
I'm not sure about 90% but yea ALOT of people in the ME would have a better chance at winning a million by playing roulette lol.
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:29 PM   #5
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what about the edge the casino has?
Well obv thats the rake you would pay to enter WSOP.
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:37 PM   #6
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Re: View: Roulette vs. WSOP

can't really argue with the hyper-logic presented in OP
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:45 PM   #7
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Join me lolling at the POTY
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:58 PM   #8
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Re: View: Roulette vs. WSOP

They have BJ and slot tourneys.

Roulette tourneys are the clear next step.
lol, op.
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Old 01-31-2009, 05:22 PM   #9
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Re: View: Roulette vs. WSOP

There's a little something to be said for this.


















but not much
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Old 01-31-2009, 05:25 PM   #10
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Very well thought out OP.

But you need to factor in the chicks. Winning 1 million at the WSOP gets you far more chicks than winning 1 million at roulette.
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Old 01-31-2009, 05:27 PM   #11
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Very well thought out OP.

But you need to factor in the internet fanboys. Winning 1 million at the WSOP gets you far more internet fanboys than winning 1 million at roulette.
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Old 01-31-2009, 05:31 PM   #12
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Re: View: Roulette vs. WSOP

They hold BJ tourneys in Nevada? I know it's legal in some counties...
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Old 01-31-2009, 05:39 PM   #13
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sir frankly you can blow me. tourney poker is great game.
thats why you play all 64 events at the wsop.
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Old 01-31-2009, 05:39 PM   #14
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American roulette wheels have 2 house numbers (0, 00) out of 38 giving the house ~5.3% edge on every spin.

Foxwoodsfiend tried to martingale roulette once and was left with less than $1 and was unable to buy a cookie. He drove home without any cookies.
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Old 01-31-2009, 05:44 PM   #15
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They hold BJ tourneys in Nevada? I know it's legal in some counties...
Only on tuesdays.
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Old 01-31-2009, 05:46 PM   #16
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except that roulette gives the house an edge whereas poker the edges go to the better players
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Old 01-31-2009, 06:04 PM   #17
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Re: View: Roulette vs. WSOP

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To win a large tournament you have to win multiple coin flips correct? I don't think there is many tournament players who would disagree, especially as the field gets larger.

Instead you should just take your buy-in and play roulette.

EX:

10k on red or black > 20k
20k > 40k
40k > 80k
80k > 160k (withdraw 20k if you want to min-cash here)
160k > 320k
320k > 640k
640k > milionaire+

There that is 7 coinflips and you win a million. Except it takes 10 minutes as a opposed to two weeks. You also don't have to soil the reputation of a great game (NL hold'em) by playing a ridiculous format. You can also adjust your buy-in for the tournament you were going to play, $1500, rebuy events if you lose the first spin, etc.

Of course there is the problem of table limits but I'm sure something could be worked out with a casino.

I'm pretty sure ~90% of the field would be better off this way. Therefore WSOR>WSOP.
You should try it and then tell us your results if it is such a good idea.
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Old 01-31-2009, 06:18 PM   #18
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yeah cereusly, why does not OP organize 7000 people to do this.

im sure some casino can accomodate.

maybe they would even give the winner a ring.
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Old 01-31-2009, 06:19 PM   #19
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I think this is a great idea I'd play it for sure
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Old 01-31-2009, 06:33 PM   #20
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and when you get to 640k and lose you leave with nothing. when you get hu and lose, at least you leave with 2nd place monies.
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Old 01-31-2009, 06:51 PM   #21
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lol strong op, let us know how it works out
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Old 01-31-2009, 06:58 PM   #22
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OP convinced me, I want my money back already
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Old 01-31-2009, 07:43 PM   #23
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Re: View: Roulette vs. WSOP

This thread probably isn't worth taking seriously, but....

OP's reasoning makes sense if a person has one and only one shot to play a tournament and win a million. But the WSOP has dozens and dozens of events, many of which have million-dollar prize pools, and there are many other tournaments during the rest of the year; and after this year comes the next, and the year after, and the year after that, and so on.

If you play enough tournaments, you can relax and stop thinking so much about "what can I do to win this tournament" and more about "what can I do to maximize my overlay?" So you don't win your ten coin-flips today. Try again tomorrow, and when you do, try to arrange that you are getting at least a bit of an edge when the coin gets tossed. A good tournament player has an overlay against the field. The only one with an overlay at roulette is the house.
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