You do realise that if people listened from the beginning and were suspicious, the scandal wouldn't have been able to take place to start with? It's just those guys got sucked into it and believed the hype some high profile people created in that thread.

my favorite number is car

Lol.

I actually think that everyone in the thread understands what equity chopping is. It's not a difficult concept to understand.

The problem is not in equity chopping, it's that a game where 5 of 6 people have pieces of each other and are equity chopping lends itself to flat out collusion.

It's hard to believe, for instance, that under these conditions that there was never a pot where Guy was squeezed out because two or more of the other players were playing uber aggressively because they know they'd be at least partially freerolling if they got all-in.

What about 3-way all-in pots?

Guy has 34% equity
Player A has 43% equity
Player B has 23% equity

Player A wins. Does player B get any rebate? Or did they just ignore those pots? No one posting about it really knows the details so no one can say definitively that there was 0 collusion going on. At the very least, Player B doesn't lose everything because he has a piece of Player A's action.

Actually, in my experience, reading anything braminc says that isn't purely strategic discussion is far more annoying than people taking bizarre pride in separate sections of this message board or deciding who gets credit for busting more cheaters.

I'm still trying to understand why we're talking about HS forums and NVG as if they're counterparts or rival teams. My guess is that its backlash against the arrogance of those like you. Of course, I'll admit I'm biased because I don't like you, but I think there's some truth to it anyway. Now chill out, bro.

LOL This ^


I'll tard with you guys any day.

It's the circle of tard.

While I was a bit offended by the arrogant tone of some in the HS thread, they have a point. Read some of the worthless posts in this thread. Don't get me wrong, I think NVG does do some noteworthy things but there is a lot of junk to sift through. At the end of the day they are just asking people to not make stupid posts. Anything that appears reasonable and/or brings real information has been kept as far as I can see.

This whole thing reminds me of holidays and whether or not you had to sit at the kids table or the adults table.

Solid observation.

it's kinda like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHZsOKJFuLA

bump

This is similar to a Kessler bump. NVG patting itself on the back with a thread and then bump starting it back to life, instead of letting it die gracefully.