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08-04-2018 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by yasuo
doug is obviously a good poker player, but when he still uses that block this unblock that approach at micros it is just LOLZ
You must eventually pick some hands from your range that take certain lines, be it micro or high stakes. You might as well consider blockers when you’re able to instead of playing hands randomly because you are a lazy ******.
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08-04-2018 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by yasuo
doug is obviously a good poker player, but when he still uses that block this unblock that approach at micros it is just LOLZ
Yeah it's pretty funny that he's acting as if micro stakes players also are dealt cards and that card removal affects the frequencies of their hands lol
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08-04-2018 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mrno1324
You must eventually pick some hands from your range that take certain lines, be it micro or high stakes. You might as well consider blockers when you’re able to instead of playing hands randomly because you are a lazy ******.
wrong. and actually you are being a lazy ****** if you are blindly applying your gto/balanced/whatever strategy when massive exploits can be profitably made at micros
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08-04-2018 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
Yeah it's pretty funny that he's acting as if micro stakes players also are dealt cards and that card removal affects the frequencies of their hands lol
it only matters when the ev between two options is close due to your opponent playing balanced.
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08-04-2018 , 02:17 PM
Blockers being hugely important in PLO has caused *some* folk to vastly overrate their importance in NL IMO. I mean, the main reason AK is so strong is that, whilst blocking AA/KK, there is still huge potential to run into weaker Aces & Kings.

Obviously on very close decisions, then what you 'block' should be a factor in your decision but, damn, the overuse/misuse of this strategy seems counterproductive
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08-04-2018 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dontstakeminors
Don't know or care anything about the challenge but I will say this. Doug is a great face for a training site just by his results and more so the way he carries himself. Saw him right after he busted main event and foreign guy with limited English was begging for a photograph. Busting the main is quite possibly the worst a poker player feels all year and Doug obliged and smiled for several pics. That's way more important imo
So a foreign 2+2er asked for a photograph, cool story bro.....
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08-04-2018 , 02:32 PM
Personally I think Doug needs a microstakes 6 max coach or just do tourneys. I remember watching some of his play and obviously I don't know all the table dynamics going on at the time but he just made questionable plays that would be reasonable at higher limits and HU but at the micros seems like it's bleeding money. I think he's applying to much HU stat in 6 max to put it simply as well as forgetting it's lol micros so ****ing fold when you get raised unless you have a real read. Your A hi might not be good.........


Also he needs to stfu and think, no talking while playing. He's bleeding money by not concentrating, maybe thats why he played that A hi so badly lol, seriously tho A hi isn't the nuts Doug you McFish.
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08-04-2018 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington
Personally I think Doug needs a microstakes 6 max coach or just do tourneys. I remember watching some of his play and obviously I don't know all the table dynamics going on at the time but he just made questionable plays that would be reasonable at higher limits and HU but at the micros seems like it's bleeding money. I think he's applying to much HU stat in 6 max to put it simply as well as forgetting it's lol micros so ****ing fold when you get raised unless you have a real read. Your A hi might not be good.........


Also he needs to stfu and think, no talking while playing. He's bleeding money by not concentrating, maybe thats why he played that A hi so badly lol, seriously tho A hi isn't the nuts Doug you McFish.
I am super impressed that he can dominate these microstakes games while paying minimal attention.
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08-04-2018 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by yasuo
wrong. and actually you are being a lazy ****** if you are blindly applying your gto/balanced/whatever strategy when massive exploits can be profitably made at micros
Apparently you can make massive exploits while also considering blockers, I just learnt this yesterday.
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08-04-2018 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by zippyroo
I am super impressed that he can dominate these microstakes games while paying minimal attention.
Wat !

Doug Polk is not dominating anything.

You are clearly not paying attention.

Wow, what a delusional fan boy you must be.
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08-04-2018 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington
Personally I think Doug needs a microstakes 6 max coach or just do tourneys. I remember watching some of his play and obviously I don't know all the table dynamics going on at the time but he just made questionable plays that would be reasonable at higher limits and HU but at the micros seems like it's bleeding money. I think he's applying to much HU stat in 6 max to put it simply as well as forgetting it's lol micros so ****ing fold when you get raised unless you have a real read. Your A hi might not be good.........


Also he needs to stfu and think, no talking while playing. He's bleeding money by not concentrating, maybe thats why he played that A hi so badly lol, seriously tho A hi isn't the nuts Doug you McFish.
Yeah, dont think he needs a 6max coach lol, but defos needs to remember that this isnt HU. Hence the overemphasis on stuff like blockers.

The streaming obviously impacts his play adversely, as it does everyone, but it especially hampers the guys with big personalities that interact a lot. Logged on when he went live last night & he made reference to "not interacting with chat, putting the hours in & completing the challenge". Fair enough. Came back a few hours later & he was giving shout-outs to half the chat & borderline roasting people. Dont get me wrong, it was damn funny, but nobody can sustain that & win at poker at the same time. Tonka has the same problem. His personality is one of his biggest assets whilst also being one of his biggest weaknesses. My brain would explode if I tried to play 6-10 tables of poker whilst interacting with an internet chatroom full of trolls/fans
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08-04-2018 , 03:41 PM
So obviously Doug can beat micros, I was and still am mostly on his side in the Fernando debacle, and I forgive the cringe inducing click baity youtube titles/thumbs because that is how YouTube works, but I do want to know wtf is up with buying the RIO domain. Hopefully I just missed a perfectly reasonable explanation.
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08-04-2018 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by thrasher789
So obviously Doug can beat micros, I was and still am mostly on his side in the Fernando debacle, and I forgive the cringe inducing click baity youtube titles/thumbs because that is how YouTube works, but I do want to know wtf is up with buying the RIO domain. Hopefully I just missed a perfectly reasonable explanation.
Think he said it was a good business decision
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08-04-2018 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by w00t
Wat !

Doug Polk is not dominating anything.

You are clearly not paying attention.

Wow, what a delusional fan boy you must be.
You’re the one who is not paying attention. The man is worth millions, with an s, of dollars. Where do you think he got that money? You think he extorted a wealthy homosexual politician? Robbed a few banks? No! He earned that money playing poker. He literally built his role at the micros, working all the way up to the highest stakes. He once played a billionaire heads up with $100K/$200K blinds.
There is not a soul on this forum that disputes he was the absolute best heads up player. The only reason he doesn’t is b cause he can’t get action. He has a hard time getting action (at the poker table, not from ladies) live too. Once high stakes pros recognize him, the take their chips and leave. He has to wear elaborate disguises to play in big live games. And now, now he’s tearing up the micros with half his brain tied behind his back.
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08-04-2018 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by zippyroo
You’re the one who is not paying attention. The man is worth millions, with an s, of dollars. Where do you think he got that money? You think he extorted a wealthy homosexual politician? Robbed a few banks? No! He earned that money playing poker. He literally built his role at the micros, working all the way up to the highest stakes. He once played a billionaire heads up with $100K/$200K blinds.
There is not a soul on this forum that disputes he was the absolute best heads up player. The only reason he doesn’t is b cause he can’t get action. He has a hard time getting action (at the poker table, not from ladies) live too. Once high stakes pros recognize him, the take their chips and leave. He has to wear elaborate disguises to play in big live games. And now, now he’s tearing up the micros with half his brain tied behind his back.
Lol yeah I agree with you probably extorted wealthy homosexual politician....

Are you on drugs tho ?
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08-04-2018 , 04:33 PM
Haha pretty funny post Zippyroo

All joking side I can assure you Doug would have no issue at all getting as much action as he wants in ring games, and that was the case probably even when he was in his prime, he was never a top dog there or anywhere close to it

Doug was undeniably a top dog when it comes to Poker Youtube, now just Dnegs has more subs than him (and pokerstars afaik) but he's still at the top of the game with vid view counts

Same with crypto videos - he's up there with the most subs
And the other channels with similar sub count have a lot of subs but ****ty views compared to Doug's (who has the advantage of poker base spilling over)


Upswing probably has also been the Top-Dog when it comes to recreational/semi-serious player attracting training site that works on the sub mode + I'd be almost shocked if the course one offs (his HU, cash mastery ...) weren't the most successful in that model straight up ever until Negreanu Masterclass takes over inevitably with all that marketing.


In poker he's had a couple year period where he was top10 in a narrow variant, fluctuating to no.1 in the ever changing environment that eventually died, but that definitely constituted dominating at one point in time also.

The Microstakes domination? Yeah not so much
I'd bet on a random NL50 reg any day to finish the challenge sooner
Grinding micros is not THAT much about skill, but more about just grit and grinding through it, that's something Doug doesn't have in him, and his circumstances certainly don't help

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08-04-2018 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by zippyroo
You’re the one who is not paying attention. The man is worth millions, with an s, of dollars. Where do you think he got that money? You think he extorted a wealthy homosexual politician? Robbed a few banks? No! He earned that money playing poker. He literally built his role at the micros, working all the way up to the highest stakes. He once played a billionaire heads up with $100K/$200K blinds.
There is not a soul on this forum that disputes he was the absolute best heads up player. The only reason he doesn’t is b cause he can’t get action. He has a hard time getting action (at the poker table, not from ladies) live too. Once high stakes pros recognize him, the take their chips and leave. He has to wear elaborate disguises to play in big live games. And now, now he’s tearing up the micros with half his brain tied behind his back.
Then he should be crushing a challenge like this in a few months if he's that good. He's beating it, but hardly "tearing up the micros", whatever that's supposed to mean, lol.

How is beating a billionaire fish relevant to anything? Anyone with basic poker fundamentals can do that.

Many people would dispute it. Because at the end of the day, it's just someone's opinion. There is no precise measure to say that X player is better than Y player. It's impossible to tell. You can give vague estimates, but that's about it. You are trying to pass off opinion as fact.

Anyway, I feel like you are one of Doug's friends or possibly Doug himself. Calling Dwan a donk in another post, saying Doug gets plenty of action from the ladies (how is that relevant?), the extreme use of superlatives to describe Doug's game, the constant shilling of upswing poker. I don't doubt Doug is a decent player, but I think you're going way overboard here.
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08-04-2018 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by golfbum983
Lol yeah I agree with you probably extorted wealthy homosexual politician....

Are you on drugs tho ?
I’m on drugs because I speak the truth?
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08-04-2018 , 05:26 PM
SpinMeRightRound you must be fun at parties
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08-04-2018 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
Then he should be crushing a challenge like this in a few months if he's that good. He's beating it, but hardly "tearing up the micros", whatever that's supposed to mean, lol.

How is beating a billionaire fish relevant to anything? Anyone with basic poker fundamentals can do that.

Many people would dispute it. Because at the end of the day, it's just someone's opinion. There is no precise measure to say that X player is better than Y player. It's impossible to tell. You can give vague estimates, but that's about it. You are trying to pass off opinion as fact.

Anyway, I feel like you are one of Doug's friends or possibly Doug himself. Calling Dwan a donk in another post, saying Doug gets plenty of action from the ladies (how is that relevant?), the extreme use of superlatives to describe Doug's game, the constant shilling of upswing poker. I don't doubt Doug is a decent player, but I think you're going way overboard here.
I am not Doug, nor am I lucky enough to be his friend. He has high standards.
There may be some hyperbole in my posts, but I’ll assess your questions.

Beating a billionaire fish is relevant. You have to be Uber confident in your edge in a game to play that high out of your roll and comfort zone. I’ve seen $25-$50 and even $50-$100 games at Bellagio that I think I could hold my own in, maybe even eek out a profit. And I may even have the buy in, or access to it. However, even if I have a slight edge, it’s way out of my comfort zone and I’m not bankrolled for it.
Concerning your question about Doug’s prowess with the opposite sex. It just shows that, in general, he is a successful person. He’s made millions playing poker ( it disputed), he’s been with a lot of women (so have I. Really the only thing Doug and i have in common), and he has built a successful business with an A+ rating and free of scandal and controversy. Now he’s owning crypto currency. I don’t know the first thing about crypto, but Doug has made millions there too.
The fact is, he knows how to be successful. Failure is not an option. Nobody here respects that.
And I challenge you, prove to me Dean, who is scared to play real players like Jingleman, Hellmuth, and Doug, is not a donkey. Nobody has seen him in a long time. There is no proof he isn’t busto.
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08-04-2018 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by zippyroo
I’m on drugs because I speak the truth?
You appear to be on drugs because of your delusional posting.
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08-04-2018 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by w00t
You appear to be on drugs because of your delusional posting.
Feel free to point out any of my “delusions” and I’ll drop some truth.
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08-04-2018 , 11:17 PM
Can someone please explain to me why people are saying Doug is a losing micros player even though he's up money on the challenge? Lmfao

This whole thread just seems like projection. I grinded micros on US sites in the past (currently playing 100nl). The games are not hard.

Im not the biggest Doug fan in the world but come on. This is just people who dislike Doug trying to find a reason to discredit him. Or people making it seem like Doug can't beat micros to make themselves feel better about being a losing micros *****reg

No wonder the dude is stepping away from poker. The community is toxic, especially towards him.
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08-04-2018 , 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mongoose0141
Can someone please explain to me why people are saying Doug is a losing micros player even though he's up money on the challenge? Lmfao

This whole thread just seems like projection. I grinded micros on US sites in the past (currently playing 100nl). The games are not hard.

Im not the biggest Doug fan in the world but come on. This is just people who dislike Doug trying to find a reason to discredit him. Or people making it seem like Doug can't beat micros to make themselves feel better about being a losing micros *****reg

No wonder the dude is stepping away from poker. The community is toxic, especially towards him.
Exactly. A bunch jealous mouth breathers living in their parents’ basements typing into a keyboard.
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08-04-2018 , 11:38 PM
Should move to microstakes online roulette imo
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