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07-31-2018 , 04:42 PM

#151

gregorio

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^^this. You can calculate it here: http://www.pokerdope.com/poker-variance-calculator/. Plug in some numbers to see some cool graphs.

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07-31-2018 , 04:50 PM

#152

SrslySirius

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Originally Posted by Maximus122

It should be shown that all the stakes were beaten in Hold Em Manager.

You can't use Hold'em Manager with WSOP.com. They don't provide hand histories due to Nevada Gaming regulations.

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07-31-2018 , 10:03 PM

#153

TooCuriousso1

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Originally Posted by javi

Pros cant beat micros due to a sort of reverse "scared money" syndrome. You just cant get your head in the game for stakes you dont care about.

This is actually pretty true. Its a rare talent to be able to play a wide range of stakes at the same general time-frame with no discrimination for the stakes. But you adjust/equalize to the stakes pretty soon. I.e going from 25/50 to 5/10 or vice versa, as long as there aren't other factors... In my experience.

And to the people that actually think DP can't beat micros... just lol. You have no concept of how good someone like him actually is at poker.

Last edited by TooCuriousso1; 07-31-2018 at 10:09 PM.

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07-31-2018 , 10:15 PM

#154

FreshThyme

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Originally Posted by TooCuriousso1

Time for the 2 retired HU pros to battle it out. The stakes. 25HUNL, the prize you ask? NVG GLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORY! My bet is on poker site winning that one, I heard WPN has ok RB and stays connected 72% of the time.

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07-31-2018 , 10:22 PM

#155

TooCuriousso1

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Dude I'm back in the game, THE GREAT GAME that is, 6 max style. Idk how to 2 card PLO anymore. I actually do love wpn when it works.

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07-31-2018 , 10:25 PM

#156

FreshThyme

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Originally Posted by TooCuriousso1

Dude I'm back in the game, THE GREAT GAME that is, 6 max style. Idk how to 2 card PLO anymore. I actually do love wpn when it works.

Saw you with that sexy $75K stack yesterday.

The real great game is 2 card and you know it deep down. What's better than 4x potting the river knowing you're going to get called?

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07-31-2018 , 10:42 PM

#157

zippyroo

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Originally Posted by TooCuriousso1

This is actually pretty true. Its a rare talent to be able to play a wide range of stakes at the same general time-frame with no discrimination for the stakes. But you adjust/equalize to the stakes pretty soon. I.e going from 25/50 to 5/10 or vice versa, as long as there aren't other factors... In my experience.

And to the people that actually think DP can't beat micros... just lol. You have no concept of how good someone like him actually is at poker.

Truer words have never been spoken.

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07-31-2018 , 10:47 PM

#158

rakemeplz

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Haven't read thread (grunch) but this is one of those threads which can easily turn around and be advertising for Douglas William Polk. Or even if it's kinda bad, bad publicity might be good publicity in that nvgtards will be wonderin' (ABP) about doug's training site.

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07-31-2018 , 10:54 PM

#159

D1G1TALFOX

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Originally Posted by TooCuriousso1

And to the people that actually think DP can't beat micros... just lol. You have no concept of how good someone like him actually is at poker.

This whole thread deserves no action but always liked and could not agree more with TCfromUB

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07-31-2018 , 10:56 PM

#160

.isolated

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Originally Posted by rakemeplz

idk who Douglas William Polk is but it sounds good.

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07-31-2018 , 11:13 PM

#161

zippyroo

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Originally Posted by .isolated

idk who Douglas William Polk is but it sounds good.

He’s an awesome poker player. He is the biggest winner both live and online cash games. Nobody comes close to his prowess at poker, with women, and in business.

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07-31-2018 , 11:14 PM

#162

SpinMeRightRound

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Originally Posted by TooCuriousso1

This is actually pretty true. Its a rare talent to be able to play a wide range of stakes at the same general time-frame with no discrimination for the stakes. But you adjust/equalize to the stakes pretty soon. I.e going from 25/50 to 5/10 or vice versa, as long as there aren't other factors... In my experience.

And to the people that actually think DP can't beat micros... just lol. You have no concept of how good someone like him actually is at poker.

For someone who is so good at poker (which I don't deny), he has a much lower win rate at the micros than I expected. This must surely mean competition at the micros is very tough and/or rake is set way too high?

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07-31-2018 , 11:20 PM

#163

.isolated

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Originally Posted by zippyroo

He’s an awesome poker player. He is the biggest winner both live and online cash games. Nobody comes close to his prowess at poker, with women, and in business.

The poker player Doug Polk's middle name isn't William. That was my point.

Last edited by .isolated; 07-31-2018 at 11:21 PM. Reason: It's Kevin

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07-31-2018 , 11:59 PM

#164

happy to be hear

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Tournaments =/= cash games

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08-01-2018 , 02:31 AM

#165

mirage01

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Looked like Polk was getting taken apart by the WSOP cash regs. Even stacking him with A high. No wonder hes hiding in the mtts. lul.

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08-01-2018 , 02:33 AM

#166

SageDonkey

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Caught some of the stream last night and Doug was up to his old ways again, not really practicing proper BRM.

He entered a $50 MTT and two tabled (100BB BI) 50c/$1 NLHE 6/8 max cash, off a $1200 roll. The $50 MTT isn't as "bad".

I know it's shot taking, and it must be frustrating for him having to grind long hours over many sessions when he has bigger fish to fry, but it sort of invalidates the challenge to not play it for real as a small stakes player with one $1200 roll and no other backup.

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08-01-2018 , 02:52 AM

#167

Brokenstars

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Originally Posted by mirage01

Looked like Polk was getting taken apart by the WSOP cash regs. Even stacking him with A high. No wonder hes hiding in the mtts. lul.

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Originally Posted by SageDonkey

So much this. Some of his plays were legit bad too

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08-01-2018 , 03:49 AM

#168

Lemon93PCTSure

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Pretty sure because he doesn't enjoy poker it's hard for him to stick to BRM
You guys know the periods when you're learning, working on your game, thinking hard
suddenly every hand is a treat, poker is poker and you don't care if it's $400 or $5 cash game, you just want to solve the puzzle of the hand you're in right now.

As opposed to playing when it's a chore, and you focus on the end result and try to force it. NL100 on $1200 is a symptom of that

Ironically it's the first attitude that let's you win the most, no matter what stake you play, you are just in the mindset of your very best poker having the highest priority

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08-01-2018 , 06:01 AM

#169

zippyroo

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Originally Posted by .isolated

The poker player Doug Polk's middle name isn't William. That was my point.

I don’t know what his middle name is. I’m in his gang, Upswing Poker Gang, and we just call him Godfather.

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08-01-2018 , 06:26 AM

#170

Tomtah

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Just lock and delete this thread already. The amont of autism is just too strong. It's not like he welched on a challenge the Durr challenge(where there was real money bets involved). Either watch 10 minutes of gameplay on his stream or look at the fact that he 10x:ed his BR in 40 sessions and you'll see he's absolutely destroying the microstakes. Also, there is absolutely nothing wrong with practicing a 10 buyin banroll management strategy if you have the fortitude to not go completely broke if you have a couple of bad sessions.

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08-01-2018 , 08:17 AM

#171

DrSayre

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Where is the bankroll at after last night?

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08-01-2018 , 08:31 AM

#172

Maximus122

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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound

Competition at the micros is very tough which isn't surprising.

With zoom you can get 10,000 hands of experience in a day now.

Everyone on Twitch is giving away their strat for free.

Rake is insanely high.

You have to battle with Eastern Europeans who are mass tabling and glad to be making 3 dollars an hour.

Their are bots in the games guaranteed.

Micros are extremely extremely tough these days.

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08-01-2018 , 09:43 AM

#173

zippyroo

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Originally Posted by Maximus122

What is the counter strategy to beating a bot? I’m sure Doug knows. They have to somehow be exploitable.

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08-01-2018 , 09:55 AM

#174

Tomtah

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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound

1) You don't know his winrate at the micros. It could be 15 bb/100 and you would have no idea.
2) Even if you did know his winrate at the micros he hasn't played enough hands yet to know if he's running good/bad.