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07-28-2018 , 02:30 PM
I see that Doug Polk started his $100-> $10k challenge and he's struggling to win at micro stakes and gave up. Should people like this be face of a training site? This is especially ironic since he's so vocal about Dwan not finishing his challenge.

I also feel like he's after quick money. When he saw the amount of money being made in crypto currency, he's suddenly Crypto Doug.. seriously?? He also bought RIO domain which is pretty dishonorable.
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07-28-2018 , 02:34 PM
more training sites are better.
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07-28-2018 , 02:36 PM
lol

edit: I do love how you throw these things in your post that have nothing to do with the topic because it's such a dumb topic.

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This is especially ironic since he's so vocal about Dwan not finishing his challenge.
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When he saw the amount of money being made in crypto currency, he's suddenly Crypto Doug.. seriously??
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He also bought RIO domain which is pretty dishonorable.
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07-28-2018 , 02:37 PM
His approach to beating the micros is terrible, cant beat the rake with his strat by a decent amount of bb/100
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07-28-2018 , 02:38 PM
He would beat micros easily and reach his $10K target quickly if he put in some volume in Canada where he could multi table across various sites and with it have a better choice of games.

If you've been following his BR challenge and been reading various threads on forums about it you would know this, and that being restricted to WSOP.com is a massive blocker to *anyone* being able to get from $100 to $10K quickly.
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07-28-2018 , 02:40 PM
Sort of amazing timing, will be posting something in the next day or two

Also, turning $100 into $1000 in 40 sessions is confirmed "cant beat microstakes"
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07-28-2018 , 02:44 PM
Op is looking at this the wrong way

I say if you cant beat mircos, you HAVE to be the face of a training site

either that or a talk show host.
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07-28-2018 , 02:45 PM
Doug can beat the micros, but not small stakes. This is where his block unblock approach runs into a wall.
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07-28-2018 , 02:51 PM
If Polk had kept playing PLO he'd beat the challenge quite swiftly The edge he has there in bb/100 is going to be much higher than in nlhe, at micros/small stakes. Guess it doesn't jive with him being a nlhe specialist and poor (for being a HS/nosebleedsplayer) at PLO though or something
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07-28-2018 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
If Polk had kept playing PLO he'd beat the challenge quite swiftly The edge he has there in bb/100 is going to be much higher than in nlhe, at micros/small stakes. Guess it doesn't jive with him being a nlhe specialist and poor (for being a HS/nosebleedsplayer) at PLO though or something
Based on what I've seen, I would disagree with you. I think his edge is biggest in HU NLHE followed by 6 Max NLHE and his smallest edge (if an edge at all at PLO) is in HU PLO/6 Max PLO.

His edge at HU NLHE from the ~20 hours of the challenge I've watched is huge, he owns and stacks opponents for fun.

As in my earlier post, just needs more tables available across sites and would then additionally benefit from more freerolls, rake back and bonuses if he played a stint in Canada or Europe across multiple sites.
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07-28-2018 , 03:07 PM
The keys to beating the micros are just the same as any other level.

Run good, don't do anything stupid, win the flips, don't take bad beats.

No fish left in poker, everyone is solid.

There are still some Whales.
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07-28-2018 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
I play cards on internet almost daily

I’m 5% body fat

Never shot anybody

Someone is jelly of the USA
Perhaps the dumbest post of all time.
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07-28-2018 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SageDonkey
Based on what I've seen, I would disagree with you. I think his edge is biggest in HU NLHE followed by 6 Max NLHE and his smallest edge (if an edge at all at PLO) is in HU PLO/6 Max PLO.

His edge at HU NLHE from the ~20 hours of the challenge I've watched is huge, he owns and stacks opponents for fun.

As in my earlier post, just needs more tables available across sites and would then additionally benefit from more freerolls, rake back and bonuses if he played a stint in Canada or Europe across multiple sites.
Yea I could be wrong, I'm really just basing it off:
1. Achievable winrates at microPLO are higher than at microNLHE
2. Doug is, compared to the field, decent at PLO

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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
I play cards on internet almost daily

I’m 5% body fat


Never shot anybody

Someone is jelly of the USA
call
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07-28-2018 , 03:16 PM
It's about time we got some Doug Polk and "coaches who can't be the game" content in NVG.
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07-28-2018 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Loctus

call
Aces full, Mikey
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07-28-2018 , 03:20 PM
Why would you be into poker if not for ‘quick money’?
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07-28-2018 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MastaAces
Perhaps the dumbest post of all time.
Dumbest location of all time

Ohh unconscious raps, cool stuff
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07-28-2018 , 03:23 PM
He seems to be winning during most of his session. He does not care about the challenge because it is small money for him. That being said the training site prices are egregious and from what I have heard the content is not so great expect for the PLO lab lol.
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07-28-2018 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MastaAces
Perhaps the dumbest post of all time.
IDK, I think it at least ties the post it was a reply to.

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It's about time we got some Doug Polk and "coaches who can't be the game" content in NVG.
This. Thank goodness for OP's hot take that needed a new DP thread.
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07-28-2018 , 03:29 PM
Ya I think the challenge should have been finished in 3 months tops.

Zapahzamazki is streaming every day on Twithch doing a $100 to 10k challenge and is on $5,500 already after 7 days. He has done this multiple times.

I was a lab member and the site does have a good coach called Freied Moulders who beats and plays 500 zoom regularly. Does good PIO stuff as well.

Doug obviously has the best poker brain on the site but for some reason he only covers the basics. I'm not sure why this is.
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07-28-2018 , 03:38 PM
If you want access to Doug's brain you gotta pay for the HU course.
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07-28-2018 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by KB24
I see that Doug Polk started his $100-> $10k challenge and he's struggling to win at micro stakes and gave up. Should people like this be face of a training site? This is especially ironic since he's so vocal about Dwan not finishing his challenge.

I also feel like he's after quick money. When he saw the amount of money being made in crypto currency, he's suddenly Crypto Doug.. seriously?? He also bought RIO domain which is pretty dishonorable.
What makes you conclude that Doug can't beat the micros?

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07-28-2018 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
IDK, I think it at least ties the post it was a reply to.


This. Thank goodness for OP's hot take that needed a new DP thread.
Thanks for having my back
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07-28-2018 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by KB24
I see that Doug Polk started his $100-> $10k challenge and he's struggling to win at micro stakes and gave up. Should people like this be face of a training site? This is especially ironic since he's so vocal about Dwan not finishing his challenge.

I also feel like he's after quick money. When he saw the amount of money being made in crypto currency, he's suddenly Crypto Doug.. seriously?? He also bought RIO domain which is pretty dishonorable.
I fully agree with you. Although at the end of the day, we can't stop him being the face of his own training site. There's no law saying you can't have a training site named after you just because you can't beat micro stakes cash games.

Micros are still beatable, but as we've seen from this challenge, they're a lot tougher than people realize.
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07-28-2018 , 05:30 PM
I'm a subscriber to his course. I think it's pretty good. Moreover, I'm sure he's experienced enough to make the correct adjustments at lower stakes.
You do realize the man made millions, literally millions, beating the best players heads up for rolls. He has won several WSOP bracelets.
Not only am I one of his subscribers, I have bought t-shirts off his site and wear them to the casino proudly. I am more proud to be a member of Upswing than I was when I joined the Crips.
I'd love to have 5 minutes to pick his brain. He's a great player and a good instructor.
I would add, Ryan Fee and Fried are awesome as well.
I don't blame anyone with such knowledge to minimize the variance of poker by creating a steady cash flow from teaching. And the price is reasonable. Take Alec Torelli, for example. That man wants $3,000 to coach someone.
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