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01-11-2020 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Eponymous
You should go to comedy clubs and let the rest of the audience know that you get the references for all the jokes. It would impress them as much as it does all of us.
I will do that, meanwhile you stay here and continue to act like a douchebag to strangers online.
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01-14-2020 , 07:57 PM
Funny posters.

I like this thread.
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01-18-2020 , 12:57 AM
Does he play online now? How would he fair in bovada or wpn cash games? Or stars cash games?
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01-18-2020 , 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
Does he play online now?
Garrett buys in to live games for twice as much as the best online players make in a year. Who cares about online poker anymore?
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01-18-2020 , 05:02 AM
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01-18-2020 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
Does he play online now? How would he fair in bovada or wpn cash games? Or stars cash games?
I don't think he has a strong fundamentals to beat current 100bb 6max high stakes cash game on any of the sites. I'm sure he's a great player in the live setting though.
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01-19-2020 , 11:38 AM
I mean the T6hh bluff kind of ruins the statement he may be the best live player, would be nice if we could still afford those punts online and still win
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01-19-2020 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
I mean the T6hh bluff kind of ruins the statement he may be the best live player, would be nice if we could still afford those punts online and still win
Well he did bluff abe off of top pair and that guys spider man/tar rabbit sticky. So he has had some success with bluffing!
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01-19-2020 , 10:48 PM
don't we all?
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01-20-2020 , 05:12 AM
I think we can all agree he is far better than Berkey
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01-20-2020 , 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by fakekidpoker
I think we can all agree he is far better than Berkey
that's a low bar
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01-20-2020 , 10:26 AM
Yea, plus Berkey's name is almost Berkeley. And Berkeley seems like a kinda sketchy place to live in recent years, so, I doubt he could be all that great either, given the suspicious link between these various berkish things.

Then again, Elizabeth Berkeley was (probably still is?) pretty hot. Especially in Any Given Sunday. Everyone talks about her role in Showgirls since she got even nakeder in that one, but in terms of actual sheer hotness, I think Any Given Sunday was probably her peak form.

So maybe he's okay after all, when taking that into consideration.

And thus, by proxy, it would also boost Garrett's stock to some degree, since he's better than Berkey, and Berkey's stock was raised due to Any Given Sunday.

It's complicated math, but someone has to do it.

Anyway, basically it means that Garrett is actually pretty good, once you analyze all of it really carefully like that.
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01-29-2020 , 03:23 PM
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01-29-2020 , 04:13 PM
he decided to 3bet and triple atc vs a super nit and the super nit made a predictably bad fold. horribly played by both
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01-29-2020 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dick Tracy
Charisma? Garrett's pretty dry from what I've seen, imo.
Maybe he's been dry on the streams you've seen, but at the table, personality-wise, it's just impossible to dislike the guy.
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01-29-2020 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
he decided to 3bet and triple atc vs a super nit and the super nit made a predictably bad fold. horribly played by both
Andy's fold is probably fine against a reasonable range actually, maybe defend a little bit but folding is usually the right play against 2x pot river there, gman's play was fine-ish until the river, river jam is just a punt without any heart in his hand
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01-29-2020 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
Andy's fold is probably fine against a reasonable range actually, maybe defend a little bit but folding is usually the right play against 2x pot river there, gman's play was fine-ish until the river, river jam is just a punt without any heart in his hand
I mean if he's 3betting atc (T4o, 94o, 84o, etc) and tripling at a high freq then it's an easy call esp with Qh. garrett can't really go thinner than a set or top 2 for value, and realistically I think he just ends up with air or a flush with this line. and he has a **** ton of air obviously. yeah against a normal range definitely fine to fold, but not when V likes 3betting 0% 3bet hands

gman's flop/turn play was fine if the T4o 3bet is part of a well constructed preflop range. somehow I doubt it
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01-29-2020 , 05:41 PM
yeah you're not giving him a whole lot of credit, just because he 3bets T4o this time doesn't mean he's always 3betting all his garbage and tripling it man lol, otherwise he'd be broke
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01-29-2020 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
yeah you're not giving him a whole lot of credit, just because he 3bets T4o this time doesn't mean he's always 3betting all his garbage and tripling it man lol, otherwise he'd be broke
obv not every time, but if someone is 3betting a 0.00% 3bet hand yeah I tend to not give them much credit. maybe he has a randomizer and only 3bets T4o 5% of the time. more likely is that he just gets out of line a lot because 2xpotting rivers works

tbf garret obviously knows andy overfolds a bunch so he just looks for these types of spots to pile money in and hope andy didn't make the nuts. I don't think he's 3betting this situation vs the majority of players
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01-29-2020 , 05:49 PM
The thought process for this hand as I see it:

"I'm just going to out play the guy. I'm going to out play this guy, this hand, I'll re-raise."
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01-29-2020 , 10:10 PM
Andy isnt a nit even though he looks like one
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01-30-2020 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
obv not every time, but if someone is 3betting a 0.00% 3bet hand yeah I tend to not give them much credit. maybe he has a randomizer and only 3bets T4o 5% of the time. more likely is that he just gets out of line a lot because 2xpotting rivers works

tbf garret obviously knows andy overfolds a bunch so he just looks for these types of spots to pile money in and hope andy didn't make the nuts. I don't think he's 3betting this situation vs the majority of players
No, hes closing the action pre in the straddle if i read the action correctly so is going to be polarized when he reopens the pot, and a hand like T4o that is 0% from any other position now enters as a 3 bet at some low freq.
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01-30-2020 , 07:29 AM
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01-30-2020 , 09:05 AM
is Garrett a homosexual? i kind of hope not, but w/e.
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01-30-2020 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ProRailbird
Bill Klein being involved for no reason in that hand and then tanking for no reason on the river makes Andy's bluff work a lot better. Garrett has to be thinking that if Bill folded a highish spade, then what was Andy in the hand with? Garrett's hand is kind of face up as played. Andy doesn't need J9 here he could be shoving any boat or quads or a straight flush for value and there's two of them. It's a really sick blocker play by Andy he's blocking the boats, quads and the straight flushes, vs a kind of face up nut flush. It's part of the edge Andy has in this game that I alluded to earlier. There's few players willing to sit for $100k in this game and far fewer willing to ship $100k into $33k on a blocker bluff. I would still expect Garrett to win more money over time but it's ability like this that makes Andy a winning player in the game too.

Andy still lost a huge amount in this session tho.
This is a sensible take. Another dead spade.. just fold. Adelstein is very good. I like watching him on that one in florida. You know, im going to start writing down names i see on TV so i remember them. There are 5 MTT players i cant name that are so damn good. Some pros are very average though.
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