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07-20-2023 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by EasyGo
Agents are hard to get, especially if you live outside of California. But if any are interested in corresponding, I'd be glad to do so.

And yes, I do have a logline, an outline, coverage etc.
Well, I’ll give you this - I was baiting you a bit with a more aggressive response to see how you’d take harsh criticism and you didn’t retaliate. That’s good. You’ll need to have thick skin with all the rejection in the industry.

Getting representation IN California is a task and being outside of it can make it a tad more difficult but still possible.

I have some family in the industry and it took them quite some time to get to where they are. I would encourage you not to put all your eggs in this basket and write and write and write until you can’t write anymore….then write more. Build a diverse portfolio of specs and send them off to as many agents as you can.

Good luck!
07-20-2023 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
...Unlikely that Firpo or Huff will be the one standing by you at the awards podium, but they have a better chance than almost anyone at NVG at helping you unlock the next door on the way...
Ok, thanks.
07-20-2023 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by News777
The greatest movie with Knights in the title was The Hollywood Knights starring Robert Wuhl as Newbomb Turk.
For the record, my title of "Vegas Knights" existed years before the "Vegas Golden Knights" hockey team came along. I have another title that might even be better but I guess I'm just emotionally attached to the current title. Of course if anyone buys the script, I will tell them what the other possible title is and they can choose which one they like best. Also, any possible buyer can change the script anyway they want and they will get partial writing credits if they do change it.

Last edited by EasyGo; 07-20-2023 at 11:16 PM.
07-21-2023 , 06:39 PM
I hereby cast one vote for Space Man From Pluto.
07-21-2023 , 07:48 PM
What year did it win honors at Scriptapalooza? Not seeing it on this list
https://scriptapalooza.com/winners/past-winners/
07-21-2023 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by isnortbooze
What year did it win honors at ScriptaIpalooza? Not seeing it on this list
https://scriptapalooza.com/winners/past-winners/
I won a quarterfinalist honor in 2013. Below is a post I wrote on another website on August 13, 2013. You certainly should be able to find out that the contest gave out quarterfinalist honors around that time.

"Some of you who have been following the saga of this script might be interested to know that the script has won its 3rd honor. Ten days ago it became a quarterfinalist in the huge Scriptapalooza Screenwriting contest. While it is not a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd place award, I’ll take being a quarterfinalist in a contest with 3,798 entries and am honored to have received it. Yes, that is not a misprint, the contest had 3,798 entries. That shows you just how many screenplays are out there and how competitive the field is."

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added: Here is the procedure of the contest that mentions runner-ups and quarterfinalists.

https://scriptapalooza.com/judges/procedure/

Last edited by EasyGo; 07-21-2023 at 08:59 PM.
07-22-2023 , 06:45 AM
Oh man I miss this guy
07-22-2023 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by EasyGo
Within its narrative the script includes:
Everything but a story.

I mean, seriously, do you have any idea how to describe a story? Finish this sentence: My screenplay is about [a character] who wants [something].

"A look at … attractive women tourists in bathing suits … famous Vegas hotels of the past and … famous poker strategy books" does not a story make. What you have described in your off-putting wall of text is more a photo collage than a story. Maybe a documentary or an essay about the history of Vegas and gambling. Maybe an infomercial on the dangers of problem gambling. But not a story.

Also, what would you think if I told you that I've written a screenplay called "Boston Sox," but it's not about the baseball team of that name—in fact, it's doesn't have anything to do with baseball at all? Does that make any sense to you?

You say you are a screenwriter, but do you have any produced credits or any history of employment as a writer in television or film? If your only claim to the profession is these three dubious screenwriting awards, then maybe you need to go back to film school and start over.

I really don't know what you hope to achieve by posting about your screenplay, or posting excerpts from it, here—especially after the experience you had previously. I don't think you realize just how amateurish and delusional you sound.

I love movies about gambling. The Gambler (the original 1974 version), California Split, Owning Mahowny, and Mississippi Grind are some of my favorite films. I also enjoyed David Milch's short-lived HBO series Luck. Yet I have less than zero interest in reading one line of your script.
07-22-2023 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by agamblerthen
Everything but a story.

I mean, seriously, do you have any idea how to describe a story? Finish this sentence: My screenplay is about [a character] who wants [something]...
Believe me, I know how to describe a story. I have a logline, a one page outline, a 3 page outline. There is a longer treatment in the coverage done by an experienced script reader. If someone with clout like an agent or a known actor wants them, contact me.

I believe however you have to read the entire script to really get the vibe of this story.
07-23-2023 , 05:11 AM
No one believes you.

It's not the agent or actor's job to contact you, what planet do you live on?

Why would you chose to post that wall of rebarbative useless garbage instead of your supposedely other 1 page line?
Don't you feel anything from the responses here?
Can't you read what's happening?
07-23-2023 , 05:34 AM
hint: this guy is trolling
07-23-2023 , 08:48 AM
As an actor, personally, I’m waiting until Wednesday when he posts a few scenes. That will allow us to evaluate the quality of the script.

Also, OP, do you have a proof of concept?
07-23-2023 , 09:51 AM
I won't roast the author.

How many movies have spectacular scripts, but bomb at the box office because X Y Z factors.

There's ton of artwork (and movies) whose greatness was never realized until after the movie had been released for a while.

I have some great ideas, I even write down my great ideas. Just yesterday, I wrote down a "Billion dollar idea."

Ideas are great, but execution is the key here. If you can't execute this idea, the idea is worthless.

If you execute this idea and it's the 3rd best gambling movie ever made, isn't that pretty good?

OP, go for it. You obviously need marketing help, but marketing is crucial for any business endeavor.

Marketing is the reason we all know who directors like M. Night Shyamalan are.

20 years ago, he was "The Next Spielberg" but today, he's the butt of many jokes and the creator of many box office bombs... many of which, he probably doesn't care about, because he's sold $3.4B worth of movies.
07-23-2023 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by weeeez
...Why would you chose to post that wall of rebarbative useless garbage instead of your supposedely other 1 page line?
So you want me to post the film's plot to the world, got it.

Hey I realize some of you anonymous guys are on a search and destroy mission, I expected it.
07-23-2023 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by EasyGo
So you want me to post the film's plot to the world, got it.

Hey I realize some of you anonymous guys are on a search and destroy mission, I expected it.
Why does OP ignore my questions, the only confirmed actor in this thread? Hmmmmmmm.
07-23-2023 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Meisner
As an actor, personally, I’m waiting until Wednesday when he posts a few scenes. That will allow us to evaluate the quality of the script...
Yeah, it will also allow those "anonymous" posters in here on a destroy mission to say anything. For example if I posted scenes with dialogue like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBiewQrpBBA

they will say things like:

-"One way ticket to Palookaville" What kind of goofy dialogue is that, nobody talks like that. That's laughable.

-the guy in the hat calling his brother "kid" is weird.

-telling his brother he was beautiful at 168lbs is also weird. All this dialogue is laughable and totally amateurish.

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Anonymous posters on a mission can say anything, but that will be the price I pay for posting dialogue. But I guess the 3 honors will always be the elephant in the room no matter what negative things anonymous posters say.
07-23-2023 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by weeeez

It's not the agent or actor's job to contact you, what planet do you live on?
So agents and known actors should do nothing if they are intrigued by a 3x honored script on a subject they are interested in, got it.
07-23-2023 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by EasyGo
So you want me to post the film's plot to the world, got it.

Hey I realize some of you anonymous guys are on a search and destroy mission, I expected it.
This sums up one of your biggest problems. You act as though your script is some brilliant idea that people will steal. They won’t. This is amateur assumption 101 and keeps you from progressing anywhere.

This is probably the single biggest reason why you have failed to gain any traction on this in the 10 years you’ve been trying to sell it.

Nobody is stealing any ideas from you. Professional writers don’t do that. Producers don’t do that. Nobody does that. Nobody WANTS to do that. You go around announcing your “brilliant” script but won’t let anyone read it and won’t even give a basic plot line? Your reluctance is bizarre.

No agent is going to reach out to you. They receive hundreds of scripts a day, read the first page to see if it has legs, then move on to the next one if it doesn’t. You think yours is so special, they’re going to seek YOU out to make an offer?!? Lol!


My uncle was a producer/writer/animator for Disney. He was nominated for an Academy Award. He taught me to write scripts. I’ve had a few get produced but only by indie makers or film students. I’ve also done some acting and have made a few short films myself.

My point is, I know this industry better than most laypeople. Everything you’re doing is wrong. Every assumption you’ve made is wrong. You won’t make it anywhere and the script will never see the light of day if you continue going about trying to sell it the way you are.

Why aren’t you heeding this advice? Why aren’t you hearing the feedback of every single person in this thread? You’re blinded by ego and walking yourself off a cliff.
07-23-2023 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Meisner
...do you have a proof of concept?
No, that's going to take a director or producer who has the technical knowledge and finances to do something like that.
07-23-2023 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Meh
This sums up one of your biggest problems. You act as though your script is some brilliant idea that people will steal. They won’t. This is amateur assumption 101 and keeps you from progressing anywhere.

This is probably the single biggest reason why you have failed to gain any traction on this in the 10 years you’ve been trying to sell it.

Nobody is stealing any ideas from you. Professional writers don’t do that. Producers don’t do that. Nobody does that. Nobody WANTS to do that. You go around announcing your “brilliant” script but won’t let anyone read it and won’t even give a basic plot line? Your reluctance is bizarre.

No agent is going to reach out to you. They receive hundreds of scripts a day, read the first page to see if it has legs, then move on to the next one if it doesn’t. You think yours is so special, they’re going to seek YOU out to make an offer?!? Lol!


My uncle was a producer/writer/animator for Disney. He was nominated for an Academy Award. He taught me to write scripts. I’ve had a few get produced but only by indie makers or film students. I’ve also done some acting and have made a few short films myself.

My point is, I know this industry better than most laypeople. Everything you’re doing is wrong. Every assumption you’ve made is wrong. You won’t make it anywhere and the script will never see the light of day if you continue going about trying to sell it the way you are.

Why aren’t you heeding this advice? Why aren’t you hearing the feedback of every single person in this thread? You’re blinded by ego and walking yourself off a cliff.
Anybody with clout gets an outline, simple.

Last edited by EasyGo; 07-23-2023 at 12:00 PM.
07-23-2023 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by EasyGo
Yeah, it will also allow those "anonymous" posters in here on a destroy mission to say anything. For example if I posted scenes with dialogue like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBiewQrpBBA

they will say things like:

-"One way ticket to Palookaville" What kind of goofy dialogue is that, nobody talks like that. That's laughable.

-the guy in the hat calling his brother "kid" is weird.

-telling his brother he was beautiful at 168lbs is also weird. All this dialogue is laughable and totally amateurish.

_______
Anonymous posters on a mission can say anything, but that will be the price I pay for posting dialogue. But I guess the 3 honors will always be the elephant in the room no matter what negative things anonymous posters say.
Wow! I can tell your film is destined to fail. On the waterfront is considered one of the greatest films of all time. It was that performance as well as his performance in Streetcar Named Desire that revolutionized acting. Brando helped introduce the Stanislavski System of acting. The dialogue was in line with the era. Moreover , he does things in that scene alone that no one would have even considered. The subtle gesture with the gun which tells his brother, “You’re not going to shoot me,” or the emotion. It’s obvious you’ve never studied drama or film making.
Maybe you’d like to rip The Godfather next?

Last edited by Meisner; 07-23-2023 at 12:08 PM.
07-23-2023 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by EasyGo
No, that's going to take a director or producer who has the technical knowledge and finances to do something like that.
So you are what, trying to shop a script to a bunch of people who are not involved in the business and would not be able to assist you in getting it made?
07-23-2023 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by EasyGo
Anybody with clout gets an outline, simple.
Alright, you’re trolling. Never mind. I fell for it.
07-23-2023 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Meh
Alright, you’re trolling. Never mind. I fell for it.
I’ll be honest, I fell for it too until he started ripping Waterfront. That’s when I concluded he’s either mentally challenged or trolling.
07-23-2023 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by easyfnmoney
I won't roast the author.

How many movies have spectacular scripts, but bomb at the box office because X Y Z factors.

There's ton of artwork (and movies) whose greatness was never realized until after the movie had been released for a while.

I have some great ideas, I even write down my great ideas. Just yesterday, I wrote down a "Billion dollar idea."

Ideas are great, but execution is the key here. If you can't execute this idea, the idea is worthless.

If you execute this idea and it's the 3rd best gambling movie ever made, isn't that pretty good?

OP, go for it. You obviously need marketing help, but marketing is crucial for any business endeavor.

Marketing is the reason we all know who directors like M. Night Shyamalan are.

20 years ago, he was "The Next Spielberg" but today, he's the butt of many jokes and the creator of many box office bombs... many of which, he probably doesn't care about, because he's sold $3.4B worth of movies.
I enjoyed The Village

      
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