With the talk about the known cheater, Coca Valeri, in the 10K HU and the known thief, Dixie Jones, calling the final table some of us are thinking we might as well let Becky Binion start running the WSOP again. Why not?

Before all the talk about this being my 2nd post, its, of course, a new account because I have to go to work everyday and face these folks I'm calling out.

So how about it, will "don't rock the boat Jack Effel" really do something about this cheater or is it all just talk. And while he's at it, will he help with dealer moral and get his buddy's wife off the floor so that we who have been around awhile don't have to work for someone we know has been fired and banned from Harrah's properties for stealing?

Love the job, hate the cheaters and thieves!

Count me in the boat of recreational players who would donate a lot more if the game wasn't so shady.

I'm pretty much in the same position

Lol chill out guys. Its 1 event out of the tens of millions of poker games ran every year.

I'll bite, why is Dixie a thief?

Coca has inspired me to buy some shades and mark cards at my local casino 1/2 and 2/5 NL Hold Em

The more shocking headline would be that human nature changed in just 30 short years!!!!!

Aight n/m. Take my money.

+1

cant believe he won a lot and not being caught in the first hour with this cheat at Prague or whatever.

If B grade casinos dont look at that kind of cheat, it is soooo much easy for a smart person to cheat his way to million. Coca was just not enough smart.

This guy wants some respect OP.

Apparently, the WSOP jumps on cheaters and bans them. LMFAOOOO

Of course they won't admit this in public though. It depends on which lense one is looking through. Do you really think they would admit that someone beat their security systems in place? LMMFAOOOOO

Is security in the casinos not the same as in the poker rooms? Shocking!
All the wannabe casino cheaters will migrate to poker as word gets out.

lol I never thought of it like that.

I've never heard of either one of these people, and I'm sure that I'm not the only one reading this who hasn't.

Please fill us in with a brief, but factual, account to back up these serious accusations.

What evidence do you have that these accusations are true?

It is so easy to damage, and even destroy, a person's reputation and good name - and so hard for them to get it back, if indeed they ever can, once they are found to be innocent.

Let's all be very sure of our facts, not just repeating speculation and rumor, before mud-slinging.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Lee

[QUOTE=Lovesantiques;47160114]I've never heard of either one of these people, and I'm sure that I'm not the only one reading this who hasn't.

Please fill us in with a brief, but factual, account to back up these serious accusations.

No photos or signed confessions. Just what I've read and heard about Coca cheating in the 10K HU (and apparently not the first time), and Dixie being fired several years ago for stealing as a supervisor with the WSOP road team (also apparently not the first time).

I think that falls squarely under the heading of News, Views and Gossip.

Certainly is the News, View and Gossip of the dealer break room!

Statistically it has as crime in all areas is down from what I understand which is nuts as Inmates in prisons are up. Gotta keep them private prisons stocked tho or the government will be in breach of their contracts.



I'm sure cheating %wise has actually gone down from the age when Doyle was in his prime, just when u have it at a big event like this or a huge cheating scandal online it gets blown up.

"For what is Justice w/o Mercy?"- Bob Masters. ... forgiveness for Dixie is accepted by all. why dredge up the past? There are others there as well. The O.P. sounds like a guy who heard 4th hand. Road dealers get robbed since the job began and i reckon they shall til time ends. Get off the road if you cant dig it. Forgive. remember. Stop trying to lose ppl their jobs.

Sounds like you think OP is trying to borovetz some people working at the Rio out of their jobs.

I never said she was stealing from dealers. She didn't have the juice to do that. She was flat out stealing from cash drawer! And you are right, it is our place to be forgiving, but that doesn't mean we should be proud to work for or have to be represented by someone who is known for that. If she needs a job, give her one, by all means, but GAWD, not as the face and voice of the the WSOP staff calling final tables. If the broad wasn't married to a boss she couldn't even get a job pitching cards!

Its interesting that my post gave two people as examples (and used those two people because they are the talk of the dealer break room, both of them, for similar reasons) and no one said to be forgiving of the guy who cheated at the HU tourney.

How would YOU feel about having someone in a supervisors position that you and your peers had 0 respect for? How would you feel about the company you worked for or the profession you chose if scandal after scandal was mishandled by the industry?

Thats my point, and just using these two examples of industry embarrassments.

Pretty sure op will be off the road soon enough...

FYP

Absolutely on point there! Chicken ***t might be a harsh term but if you meant I had a fear of repurcussion in a business where I don't have any options to appeal, you are correct sir. But then most whistleblowers do try to stay anonymous.

I'm accountable for what I do at work. I am expected to be honest and of good moral stature, why wouldn't that be expected of everyone else in the business no matter who you are married to?

But this is becoming much more about one person than it should be. It has always been a "get yours" kind of industry, and even after going corporate, it obviously still is.

I've never applied for a floor position because I don't think I have the personality or skills to be a good one. But I know lots who have who are more experienced and with spotless records who are overlooked year after year, and yet "wives" get jobs regardless of their poor skills or criminal activity.

Do you really what to make the problem a dealer who wants to be anonymous in order to keep his job or maybe is the problem maybe something else? You can call me a coward, you can tell me I should be more forgiving, but YOU sit around in a break room with dealers (many who are GOOD dealers) who bust their butts at a job, and see how low morale gets when they find out what their "downs" are running and then conversations go to "who" is getting boss pay ahead of others who really deserve it.

Like I said from the beginning. I like my job. I like poker and try to make my table a good experience for players, pro and amateur. But this crap gets old.

How would YOU address these issues if YOU were in a job where you knew that if you spoke up against things you believed were wrong you would find yourself out of work with no recourse?

If you had a chance to keep momma happy and increase your household income, you wouldn't hire your spouse? He's the boss and he's a good one. You've got to go along before you get along. It's the way of the world homie.

I will agree he is a good one. He's one of the best and has always shown integrity. That is, I guess, what disapoints those of us who have known him for so long.

Like I said, its evident its a "get yours" business. I think that sucks.

But yeah, I "go along to get along" and put my head down and deal everyday. I am not even one of the ones bitching in the break room, because I think that leads to nothing good.

But here, hell ya, I'll give it a shot at trying to make a difference. I've seen stranger things happen.

You bring up a good point about playing politics. If you as an individual want to do well for yourself I'm sure you'd have some good ideas and suggestions on how to be successful. But this go along with the flow mentality has not served our collective interests as poker enthusiasts.

I totally can understand OP's reason for not publicly speaking out. If OP were to speak out about this OP would be fired and the other dealers would think of OP as a hero for a few hours but in the end they'd have their jobs with poor morale and the bosses would still be the bosses and OP would be out of a job and presumably us players would be out a competent dealer.

If OP had other options for a living or is the type of person that will stand for principles regardless of the personal cost then OP should fight city hall but in this industry where it's very much a scratch each others back mentality OP would likely be blackballed from the industry and no resume to speak of.