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05-27-2020 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Kilowatt
I was hoping somehow they both could lose.

Two self-unaware, limousine liberal ultra-hypocrites going at it.
lmao, regardless if one agrees with your depiction or disdain for them, post was was funny.
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05-27-2020 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Kilowatt
The Vanessa versus Prahlad hand was one where I couldn't figure out who to root for. I was hoping somehow they both could lose.

Two self-unaware, limousine liberal ultra-hypocrites going at it.

Surprised those two didn't become best friends.
Sick political commentary - newsflash, you can be very successful financially and still be a liberal who wants society’s institutions to be more fair to those without.

Just as Trump can literally have a toilet made of gold and still claim to care for the small working man, liberals can also live large and make legitimate claims to care for the poor. Your pejorative terms indicate that its you who deals in hypocrisy most likely.
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05-27-2020 , 12:10 PM
^^^^butthurt snowflake can't help but include Trump in any douchey response...gtfo.
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05-27-2020 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by arcdog
Sick political commentary - newsflash, you can be very successful financially and still be a liberal who wants society’s institutions to be more fair to those without.

Just as Trump can literally have a toilet made of gold and still claim to care for the small working man, liberals can also live large and make legitimate claims to care for the poor. Your pejorative terms indicate that its you who deals in hypocrisy most likely.
that's an awful lot of words to say "no u"
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05-27-2020 , 06:17 PM
Hedge funds are a compensation structure, not an asset class.

Plenty of opportunity in any market if you're lucky or good...not a lot of people can beat the market long term, however. Trying to identify those who can isn't easy either - difficult to distinguish luck/timing with skill.

I'm sure Bill Gates pays his asset managers a lot of money...of course, if he had never sold a share of MSFT, he be worth over 400 Billion!
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05-28-2020 , 01:26 AM
she was an interesting figure on TV poker. We'll see what Selbst V2.0 is like!
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05-28-2020 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Motherflopper
Is that what you say?
...is this a trick question?
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05-28-2020 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
It's funny how obviously envious many in this thread are. Also, Hellmuth is way worse than Selbst when it comes to berating players (Specifically amateurs). It's not even close.

Your logic that criticism is the result of envy. More criticism because of more envy. So how can you conclude that some people ITT are more envious of Selbst than Hellmuth because Selbst gets more criticism? Doesn't Hellmuth have more success than Selbst?


The reason that Hellmuth is not criticize as much as Selbst is that he's can be funny when he does his act. How many good lines Hellmuth have over the years? "Honey, He called me with Q10", "I can dodge bullets baby", "if it wasn't for luck, I'd win them all" . He's an ass but we can laugh at him. Name something funny Selbst has said. No one can.
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05-28-2020 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Kilowatt
They already did.

That's why she "quit poker" when her sponsorship ran out with Stars.

How many people do you know who quit poker when they're crushing it? Probably very few. How many people do you know who quit poker when they're getting beaten time after time? Far, far more.

People learned to just let her hang herself.

Go take a look at her Hendonmob and it's not tough to figure out what happened.

BTW, she almost got fired from her hedge fund job within months of taking it, due to creating an altercation at the company Christmas party. I kid you not.

She also berates people at the table constantly and talks down to them. There was a Twitter thread after she melted down at the Main in 2018.

Basically she shamed everyone for being critical of her play, and then a million people came out of the woodwork to talk about their own personal Selbst-berating-them-at-the-table stories, including recreational players and pros whose wives and girlfriends were abused by her at the WSOP Ladies Event.

She's a narcissist with zero self-awareness.
+1
she couldn't be more unbearable
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05-29-2020 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by arcdog
Sick political commentary - newsflash, you can be very successful financially and still be a liberal who wants society’s institutions to be more fair to those without.

Just as Trump can literally have a toilet made of gold and still claim to care for the small working man, liberals can also live large and make legitimate claims to care for the poor. Your pejorative terms indicate that its you who deals in hypocrisy most likely.
legitimate claims mean absolutely nothing when you have the means to help the poor but don't. They mean even less when you're fine exploiting them.
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05-29-2020 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by -ThePimp-
Your logic that criticism is the result of envy. More criticism because of more envy. So how can you conclude that some people ITT are more envious of Selbst than Hellmuth because Selbst gets more criticism? Doesn't Hellmuth have more success than Selbst?


The reason that Hellmuth is not criticize as much as Selbst is that he's can be funny when he does his act. How many good lines Hellmuth have over the years? "Honey, He called me with Q10", "I can dodge bullets baby", "if it wasn't for luck, I'd win them all" . He's an ass but we can laugh at him. Name something funny Selbst has said. No one can.
Because you can believe one deserves it more than the other? It's why some people can hate LeBron and love Jordan or vice versa. You're right there's a lot more that plays into it though. As I said in my other response, there's a thin line between admiration and envy.

I guess Hellmuth is funny in the sense that people laugh at him for behaving like an absolute muppet? He's definitely not trying to be funny. He's being genuinely demeaning and rude. He's also had more TV time so maybe people are just more used to his insane antics, so can chalk it up to "That's hellmuth being hellmuth"
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05-29-2020 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Kilowatt
She also berates people at the table constantly and talks down to them. There was a Twitter thread after she melted down at the Main in 2018.

Basically she shamed everyone for being critical of her play, and then a million people came out of the woodwork to talk about their own personal Selbst-berating-them-at-the-table stories, including recreational players and pros whose wives and girlfriends were abused by her at the WSOP Ladies Event.
link?
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05-29-2020 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Kilowatt
The Vanessa versus Prahlad hand was one where I couldn't figure out who to root for. I was hoping somehow they both could lose.

Two self-unaware, limousine liberal ultra-hypocrites going at it.

Surprised those two didn't become best friends.
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Originally Posted by PTLou
lmao, regardless if one agrees with your depiction or disdain for them, post was was funny.
lmao i had the same feeling when i saw the hand for the first time. sometimes its fun to root for the villain, but only when the villain is cool. hard to root for 2 of the worst people.
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05-30-2020 , 08:16 AM
How the hell can she think this is a good idea? She was already bad/behind the curve 7 years ago, then lost sponsorship and went busto. So now she thinks she is going to show up and magically start printing vs 2020 opposition?
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05-30-2020 , 10:19 AM
LOL went busto.
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05-30-2020 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher

I guess Hellmuth is funny in the sense that people laugh at him for behaving like an absolute muppet? He's definitely not trying to be funny. He's being genuinely demeaning and rude. He's also had more TV time so maybe people are just more used to his insane antics, so can chalk it up to "That's hellmuth being hellmuth"

Look at the interactions between the players at the table with Hellmuth and Selbst. It's night and day. Players love to take shots at Helmuth, dog him, laugh at him. And he can take it, and these interactions are sometimes funny. But with Selbst there's none of that.
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05-30-2020 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
lots of obviously unsuccessful and jealous poker players ITT
Can you think of anyone with a comparable combination of toxic personality, mediocre skills, and overblown ego? Why would we be jealous of undoubtedly losing player who won a ton running hot while the poker world was adjusting to her hyperaggressive style? Honestly, do you think she is a lifetime winning player?
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05-30-2020 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by -ThePimp-
Look at the interactions between the players at the table with Hellmuth and Selbst. It's night and day. Players love to take shots at Helmuth, dog him, laugh at him. And he can take it, and these interactions are sometimes funny. But with Selbst there's none of that.
I've played in a tournament with Helmuth once and in a cash game with him for about an hour. I've also been next to his table a few times when they have some big mixed game at aria but not in the ivey room. I think he's pretty annoying but comes off more as super insecure than malicious. Even the way he tries to name drop celebrities sounds like a 15 year old trying to impress his high school class just oozes insecurity. Selbst always came off as a nasty condescending person. You're right that a lot of people like playing with helmuth to give him ****, although even he admits he sometimes takes it too far.

The thing with him in the wsop main a few years ago where he berated some amatuer in a hand but then bought them in to the next year's event because he realized he went too far is a good example of this. While he does play it up for the cameras and his image he genuinely felt bad. Selbst just thinks she's superior to everyone and couldn't care less about anyone else because they're beneath her.

Helmuth will berate someone for cracking a good hand with trash or ***** about coolers. Selbst will absolutely implode and punt off her stack not realizing either people have adapted to her being way too aggressive or her being up against an amateur who isn't ever going to fold top pair.She will then think they're complete morons and she's some genius who made a play far above anyone's level of thinking and berate them for it not working.Helmuth is bitching about his bad luck (ignoring of course that sometimes it isn't bad luck, and that if you're 70 percent to win that means you lose 30 percent of the time),Selbst is being nasty to people when her moronic plays don't work.

Last edited by borg23; 05-30-2020 at 01:02 PM.
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05-30-2020 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by vrael111
How the hell can she think this is a good idea? She was already bad/behind the curve 7 years ago, then lost sponsorship and went busto. So now she thinks she is going to show up and magically start printing vs 2020 opposition?
Agreed. She's behind the curve to play highrollers both online and live. Her best bet is grinding relatively lower buyin live events which with her education and work experience doesn't make sense. How many pros would quit playing if offered a guaranteed 300k basic salary in high finance.
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05-30-2020 , 01:24 PM
I would like to see her continue to succeed in poker. GL.
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05-30-2020 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
I've played in a tournament with Helmuth once and in a cash game with him for about an hour. I've also been next to his table a few times when they have some big mixed game at aria but not in the ivey room. I think he's pretty annoying but comes off more as super insecure than malicious. Even the way he tries to name drop celebrities sounds like a 15 year old trying to impress his high school class just oozes insecurity. Selbst always came off as a nasty condescending person. You're right that a lot of people like playing with helmuth to give him ****, although even he admits he sometimes takes it too far.

The thing with him in the wsop main a few years ago where he berated some amatuer in a hand but then bought them in to the next year's event because he realized he went too far is a good example of this. While he does play it up for the cameras and his image he genuinely felt bad. Selbst just thinks she's superior to everyone and couldn't care less about anyone else because they're beneath her.

Helmuth will berate someone for cracking a good hand with trash or ***** about coolers. Selbst will absolutely implode and punt off her stack not realizing either people have adapted to her being way too aggressive or her being up against an amateur who isn't ever going to fold top pair.She will then think they're complete morons and she's some genius who made a play far above anyone's level of thinking and berate them for it not working.Helmuth is bitching about his bad luck (ignoring of course that sometimes it isn't bad luck, and that if you're 70 percent to win that means you lose 30 percent of the time),Selbst is being nasty to people when her moronic plays don't work.

This is it. Nice poast
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05-30-2020 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
The thing with him in the wsop main a few years ago where he berated some amatuer in a hand but then bought them in to the next year's event because he realized he went too far is a good example of this.
Doesn't really change the gist of your valid points, but just a small point of clarification, Hellmuth bought that guy into the next year's Main Event not because he was berating him, but because Hellmuth's big mouth and talking about the contents of his own hand and basically telepathing his intent to fold caused a 3rd player to play perhaps differently in a hand and ended up knocking out that other player. Hellmuth bought him in to Main because he shouldn't have verbally divulged the contents nor his intent in the hand prior to his turn to act.

Again, doesn't change the points
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05-30-2020 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TheFly
Doesn't really change the gist of your valid points, but just a small point of clarification, Hellmuth bought that guy into the next year's Main Event not because he was berating him, but because Hellmuth's big mouth and talking about the contents of his own hand and basically telepathing his intent to fold caused a 3rd player to play perhaps differently in a hand and ended up knocking out that other player. Hellmuth bought him in to Main because he shouldn't have verbally divulged the contents nor his intent in the hand prior to his turn to act.

Again, doesn't change the points
Thanks you are correct
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05-30-2020 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by lolposting2016
This is it. Nice poast
Damn dude...at least give me credit for the assist.
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05-31-2020 , 12:04 AM
The world needs to see more of Selbst's televised punts so it should be entertaining however she has such a nut low personality that I wish she disappear into the abyss.
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