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Originally Posted by -ThePimp-
Look at the interactions between the players at the table with Hellmuth and Selbst. It's night and day. Players love to take shots at Helmuth, dog him, laugh at him. And he can take it, and these interactions are sometimes funny. But with Selbst there's none of that.
I've played in a tournament with Helmuth once and in a cash game with him for about an hour. I've also been next to his table a few times when they have some big mixed game at aria but not in the ivey room. I think he's pretty annoying but comes off more as super insecure than malicious. Even the way he tries to name drop celebrities sounds like a 15 year old trying to impress his high school class just oozes insecurity. Selbst always came off as a nasty condescending person. You're right that a lot of people like playing with helmuth to give him ****, although even he admits he sometimes takes it too far.
The thing with him in the wsop main a few years ago where he berated some amatuer in a hand but then bought them in to the next year's event because he realized he went too far is a good example of this. While he does play it up for the cameras and his image he genuinely felt bad. Selbst just thinks she's superior to everyone and couldn't care less about anyone else because they're beneath her.
Helmuth will berate someone for cracking a good hand with trash or ***** about coolers. Selbst will absolutely implode and punt off her stack not realizing either people have adapted to her being way too aggressive or her being up against an amateur who isn't ever going to fold top pair.She will then think they're complete morons and she's some genius who made a play far above anyone's level of thinking and berate them for it not working.Helmuth is bitching about his bad luck (ignoring of course that sometimes it isn't bad luck, and that if you're 70 percent to win that means you lose 30 percent of the time),Selbst is being nasty to people when her moronic plays don't work.
Last edited by borg23; 05-30-2020 at 01:02 PM.