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Old 09-24-2015, 10:15 PM   #601
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Re: Vanessa Rousso is a houseguest in Big Brother 17

eventhough vanessa played a gg with a house full of suckers she was exhausting to watch.. i couldnt take watching her emotional rollercoaster play.. actually stop really caring after james was evicted.. but the season went from bad to mediocre after steve (unlike cody last year) voted out the better player in vanessa.. im hoping next summer is an all stars or they get good players who arent afraid to make big moves..
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Old 09-24-2015, 11:30 PM   #602
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Old 09-25-2015, 12:39 AM   #603
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whole cast sitting there salty that they didnt win the monies and then vanessa is like btw im super rich poker player have like 4 million dollars and everyone is like cool f u.
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Old 09-25-2015, 01:04 AM   #604
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Totally disagree. It's a measure of how the finalists got to know the other houseguests. For example, the key question on which Steve won was Johnny Mac's comment about not missing sticking his hand in other people's nasty mouths. He almost certainly had made a comment in that regard. While Vanessa was consumed with plotting and strategizing, Steve took the time to really get to know the other cast members and it paid off in the end.

Having said that, Vanessa played a great game, and is undoubtedly the greatest Big Brother player ever who didn't win.
Steve was in an alliance with John so undoubtedly spent the most alone time with him than anyone else in the house. JMack said those exact words to Steve so it's almost unfair that a question was given that only Steve would know. If you want to give random questions, give questions that actually weren't said during the course of the season.

I can't stand that this third part of the HOH is the deciding factor of three months of game play. I hope they change this in the future.
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Old 09-25-2015, 01:10 AM   #605
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as pointed out its about knowing your housemates. you can focus on knowing the producers but you can also know the people you lived with for months. they were in the house and never left for months with every single jury member. both vanessa and steve had very weak social skills and the scores reflected that. a tiny bit of common sense and some social skills are what that comp is about. vanessa lost that final comp to an isolated hermit with weak social skills because she didnt know her housemates. while truly good players of the game build relationships vanessa was negotiating strategic deals with business partners

the final contest is fair, relevant, and meets the timing issues of a live show

i think the people impressed with vanessa havent seen or forgot previous seasons. she basically played not to win. players like her put a target on their back or lose in front of the jury if they manage to survive all the heat. yes vanessa is sharper and more strategic than her comp but this is big brother not chess or connect 4. in order to be a great big brother player you need to play big brother well. its a social game

am i the only one that thinks steve also beats vanessa in final 2? i dont think she gets austins vote. she probably gets the twins. maybe shelly. i think steve actually beats her

i also was definitely off on liz's social game. seeing her speak in front of the jury was an eye opener. they showed her socializing with austin and her sister but i didnt realize how full her head was of rocks and how much she had isolated herself. that was hopeless
Steve does not beat Vanessa in the final two. JMack votes for Vanessa over Steve. James votes for Vanessa over Steve. Becky votes for Vanessa over Steve. Shelli votes for Vanessa over Steve. The twins would never vote for Steve in the end because he was the one who evicted one of them. Each of these houseguest almost said as much in their exit interviews. Everyone said Vanessa played the best game of the season.
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Old 09-25-2015, 01:12 AM   #606
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I just read an article where an "inside source" from BB states that Vanessa wouldn't win the overall game due to her having her own TV Show that will be called "Poker Face."

The source stated she was fed gameplay info during the season about all of the other players and their strategies. This season was set up where she crushed the other players by manipulating ALL of the voters and their votes, but she would NOT win the big prize due to her receiving her own show?

Has anyone else ever heard of her receiving a show in the future called Poker face?

Thought I'd post this and see what y'all think? Oh yeah, that post I read was made in week one of this BB season.
This is the biggest made up "rumor" going around and couldn't be further from the truth. It's actually laughable. So please don't believe any of it.
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Old 09-25-2015, 06:18 AM   #607
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congrats to Steve normally i hate when the better players dont win but Vanessa is so damn unlikeable I was glad she didnt make the final two even though she played by far the best game.
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Old 09-25-2015, 03:14 PM   #608
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No surprise that the narcissist lost the comp about knowing your housemates.
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Old 09-25-2015, 04:05 PM   #609
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Steve does not beat Vanessa in the final two. JMack votes for Vanessa over Steve. James votes for Vanessa over Steve. Becky votes for Vanessa over Steve. Shelli votes for Vanessa over Steve. The twins would never vote for Steve in the end because he was the one who evicted one of them. Each of these houseguest almost said as much in their exit interviews. Everyone said Vanessa played the best game of the season.
this might be true but i dont see any reason why someone could just confidently say so. i only watch the live shows so i dont get to see all the extra super-fan stuff but steve did well in front of the jury, had a compelling pitch about his game play, and had to have been far more likeable

even when they have a meeting at the jury house. you can see they phrase questions so they can edit in suspense. questions like "what would be the reasons vanessa should win?" and someone lists the reasons. not the reasons why they will vote that way or if they actually believe they should win. you even see johnny mac respond to one of those questions with i dont think liz should win in a defiant manner

as i said ive only seen the live stuff on cbs but i could see steve (possibly) getting votes from everyone except the twins. for example james said he respected vanessas game. sure but that doesnt mean he doesnt respect steves game. and we saw the way vanessa talked to james. it was brutal. on the contrary look how james reacted to the pretty boy. it was a heated confrontation. i dont think we can assume james restraint towards vanessa as in indicator that he doesnt think shes the obnoxious ***** she is

i actually found it weird that vanessa voted for liz over steve. was it sour grapes? vanessa said she wouldnt have taken steve to the end. why would she bring liz if liz had a bunch of guaranteed votes that she could have had if she was sitting next to steve? think about it. everyone is saying vanessa has 3 guarunteed votes while sitting next to steve, vanessa is a strategic wizard, vanessa would prefer to sit next to liz and have all those guarunteed votes now go to liz. i think that demonstrates vanessas confidence with the rest of the house and imo shes right
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Old 09-25-2015, 04:31 PM   #610
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congrats to Steve normally i hate when the better players dont win but Vanessa is so damn unlikeable I was glad she didnt make the final two even though she played by far the best game.
this is the interesting thing about big brother. everyone seems to project what "good game" is when in reality its just their interpretation. theres people that make far every year because they are hopeless in comps and have no social game. they go far but they have no chance at winning. only top 2 pays and 1st is heavily weighted. its practically an all or nothing game. being in scramble mode and surviving is better than not but last season we saw someone playing a great game. covering all bases and staying safe. no scrambling

in a game structured like that if you havent set yourself up to win in front of the jury then your entire game is flawed. liz couldnt beat anyone in the final 2 and possibly only wins if she was sitting next to her sister in front of the jury. her comp record was good but she wasnt making strategic decisions and her social game was abysmal. overall her game sucked

vanessa played well but i dont think she played any better than steve. making deals and back stabbing is part of the game but all of that is minimized with good social game. vanessa had no social game which was why all the excessive scrambling and scheming took place. the one thing vanessa had going in this game is that nobody liked her and she was a free agent ready to make business deals. people could believe her because she was attached to nobody. she did very well strategically given her weaknesses but its a social game and she has feeble social skills. she came at people like a ****ing lawyer and went on power trips constantly. it was borderline aspergers. umm vanessa youre talking to human beings, maybe think a couple steps ahead. how are they going to feel about you once you have finished interrogating them?

both vanessa and the twins benefited from a very weak season. liz was clearly two peoples #1 in the house and winning comps. the fact they werent targeted week after week along with vanessa running around and flipping votes was mind blowing
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No surprise that the narcissist lost the comp about knowing your housemates.
there is absolutely no chance the big brother producers didnt know about the chad brown situation. on top of that vanessa is one of those people that you can tell something is off after hearing her speak for 30 seconds. you can tell a lot about people by their voice and how they talk. the fast, spastic, and robotic way vanessa speaks stands out

am i the only one that threw up in their mouth a little when vanessa bragged about her winnings? i mean i feel like vanessas winnings are the equivalent of someone hitting the lottery. i could be wrong but how much of vanessas prize money has come from these invitation events like Poker after dark? isnt she pretty much free rolling the circuit of big buy-in tourneys with sponsorship? i could be wrong but i just feel like she hit the lottery. shes not a fish but she just seems like a competent player that was given an amazing sponsorship based on her gender and cashed in on all the free equity being handed to her. nothing wrong with that but it makes me sick when someone in spot goes out of their way to brag about the money and present it in a way like shes some sort of poker beast

serious question. without a sponsor behind vanessa how much does she win in poker and how long is she a pro? realistically?
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Old 09-25-2015, 05:53 PM   #611
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Vanessa's GF proposed to her at the Big Brother wrap party. It made the daily mail this morning, and she just confirmed it on her twitter.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...Hollywood.html

https://twitter.com/VanessaRousso/st...08427539742720

Congrats, Vanessa!
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Old 09-25-2015, 08:15 PM   #612
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LOL vanessa blurting out she has 4.5 mill in winnings.... why say that?!? Why not just say "i am one of the most accomplished female poker players of all time" . Subtle brag when she said she had 4.5 mills in winnings... also dont think she was prepared to say it due to the way she spazzed live on TV.. julie chen put the spotlight on her
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Old 09-25-2015, 08:24 PM   #613
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LOL vanessa blurting out she has 4.5 mill in winnings.... why say that?!? Why not just say "i am one of the most accomplished female poker players of all time" . Subtle brag when she said she had 4.5 mills in winnings... also dont think she was prepared to say it due to the way she spazzed live on TV.. julie chen put the spotlight on her
She said that because she got bubbled. Simple as that. Remind people she has won at life etc.

My 2 cents.
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Old 09-25-2015, 08:39 PM   #614
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LOL vanessa blurting out she has 4.5 mill in winnings.... why say that?!?
I was so hoping someone would follow that up with a "But how much did you lose". Would have been hilarious, but it was not to be.
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Old 09-25-2015, 08:58 PM   #615
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I thought Steve played a good game. He avoided being a target, had some alliances that were well hidden from the rest of the house and poured it on when needed to win the comps.

Vanessa just a coulpe a/b answers away from possibly winning. I find the ending to be ironic. Vanessa getting a ton of blood on her hands, treating people poorly, and back stabbing people. She was counting on the jury to vote for the person who played the game the best and not to vote with their emotions. But in the end she votes for liz. Jury asked liz why should we vote for you Her answer was something like because i need the money and i made alliances. Such a weak pitch. All that time in bb house to think what she would say if she final two's it and she couldn't come up with anything compelling whatsoever. Vanessa talking her into jumping off the ball swing after Vanessa sent Austin home was so lame. Steve was obviously the stonger competitor.
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Old 09-26-2015, 06:00 PM   #616
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When did she become a lesbian?

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Old 09-26-2015, 06:44 PM   #617
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When did she become a lesbian?

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She became one last Tuesday. She woke up and BAM, just caught lesbian out of nowhere.
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Old 09-26-2015, 07:00 PM   #618
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^^ When men became sick of her act, and paid her no attention, bam it happened.

A lot of female fame whores do it.

Wait to her autobiography, she'll make all kinds of dubious claims to sell a book.
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Old 09-26-2015, 08:10 PM   #619
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Just as Meg's game was purely social and lacked strategy, Vanessa's game was purely strategy with no social aspect. It bit her in the ass in the end. She didn't deserve to win.
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I was so hoping someone would follow that up with a "But how much did you lose". Would have been hilarious, but it was not to be.
Exactly the question I was thinking of, or "when was the last time you were relevant as a poker player Vanessa?"
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When did she become a lesbian?

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You don't just become a lesbian, you are born that way. O wait....
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^^ When men became sick of her act, and paid her no attention, bam it happened.

A lot of female fame whores do it.

Wait to her autobiography, she'll make all kinds of dubious claims to sell a book.
What the hell is wrong with you?
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What the hell is wrong with you?
A woman left him for a woman, obviously.
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Vanessa Selbst = Real Lesbian.

Vanessa Rousso = Fake Lesbian in a desperate cry for attention to persuade publishers into reaching out for a book deal.

Pay attention.

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^^ You got the desperate cry for attention part right

When the book is released, the last few jamokes will be preodering the book on Amazon.

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