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Vanessa Alvarez (Mamacita) owes over ,000 (payments in progress) Vanessa Alvarez (Mamacita) owes over ,000 (payments in progress)

03-04-2023 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Poker is in a sad and pathetic state if a civil dispute over $17k is considered newsworthy enough to warrant a thread. Yeah let's keep this thread open and see what questionable thing she does next. Maybe she'll skip out on a lunch date or something. Godspeed OP, you are doing the lord's work in pursuit of your lil $17k.
This might be the worst post ever on 2p2 wp
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03-04-2023 , 01:57 PM
?agent? what is this? some form of rakeback?
17k is a good number though x)
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03-04-2023 , 02:18 PM
I’m sure DC has some really baller purchases that he can share with us given that 17k is nothing to him. Or maybe he’s just really humble and doesn’t like showing off and decided to donate a lil 20k+ to a charity or a person in need in the last year. Either way id be interested in hearing!
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03-04-2023 , 02:33 PM
Be proud of yourself for making it your duty to find any possible way to attack a person who got scammed to try to derail a thread. Seriously be proud. I'm not that type of person at all. But you've completely exposed the type of person that you are in the process. Congrats on that.
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03-04-2023 , 03:11 PM
Surprised to see there are people left who don't have Dream Crusher on ignore.
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03-04-2023 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Blubbb
?agent? what is this? some form of rakeback?
17k is a good number though x)
It's just a system that allows people to play on these sites which are completely illegal in the US. The site can claim to be a "play money" site meant for fun and then agents sell play money chips to players for real money. It's a pyramid with the site getting a cut, the head of the group getting a cut and then multiple tiers of agents and subagents getting a cut of the rake. The idea being that the feds would have to go after the individual agents who are partaking in cash transactions off the site rather than the "play money" site itself. There was an illegal sports betting operation in North Texas that operated a similar way over a decade ago. When the feds busted the ring, it had raked in a billion dollars in the previous year. There's big money in these illegal gambling operations OP and Mamacita are a part of. Not surprisingly, the vast majority of the participants are not trustworthy though.
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03-04-2023 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Blubbb
?agent? what is this? some form of rakeback?

The poker apps have been around for awhile.

Pokerbros
Pppokerr
Pokerrr2
Pokermaster
ClubGG
Suprema

To name a few. For a variety of reasons, some of us chose to play on them. Money is not handled by the apps, things are done differently than sites like Pokerstars, and these agents exists. They take your deposits, and are supposed to pay you out your winnings. Unfortunately, the door is open for scamming. You have to assume your agent cares more about their reputation than they do about the sum in your account. If you lose, you'll never know if your agent would've scammed you.

As I said before, I don't think it was Vanessa's intention to do this initially. She did pay out 5k one time when requested and seemed legit about this for awhile. However, I think her life hit some issues, and she chose to steal our money to deal with that or simply because it was too tempting. And thus, she chose our money over her reputation and this thread is born.
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03-04-2023 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Masq
The irony is that with your condescending post you helped to keep attention on the topic.
Yes, and it's also ironic that Mamacita was not newsworthy at all prior to this thread (a complete unknown to most) but now OP has single-handedly raised her profile and made her relevant in the poker world. It's reminiscent of how Garrett made Robbi relevant, and now Robbi just won a Global Poker Award yesterday.
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03-04-2023 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Yes, and it's also ironic that Mamacita was not newsworthy at all prior to this thread (a complete unknown to most) but now OP has single-handedly raised her profile and made her relevant in the poker world. It's reminiscent of how Garrett made Robbi relevant, and now Robbi just won a Global Poker Award yesterday.
She has played Live At The Bike a number of times over the years putting her assets to use which people did watch. I don't think this thread will be doing anything positive for her profile.
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03-04-2023 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by darkcube


looks like she was at the wynn around 8-9PM playing a satellite last night, according to her IG feed

LIGHT THAT ASS UP
Seriously, I was going to go to the Wynn but played the Venetian. I was half thinking of playing that Satty at Wynn wow. She has some nerve. Then again when you steak 17k you are not a honorable person.
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03-04-2023 , 07:09 PM
Yes the prices at the Wynn's restaurants can be pretty high... but 17k for a steak seems a bit excessive and dishonest imo.
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03-04-2023 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by lvBlitzforce
Yes the prices at the Wynn's restaurants can be pretty high... but 17k for a steak seems a bit excessive and dishonest imo.
LOL didn't catch the typo but the steak house in Wynn was not as great as I hoped. Homestead in CP much better. As for Vanessa she is a dirtbag
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03-05-2023 , 03:08 AM
Wow, the troll sure got fed in this thread!
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03-05-2023 , 09:43 AM
Is there a policy here against telling people to die and talking about eating ass ?

Asking for a friend whose posts keep disappearing
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03-05-2023 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Yes, and it's also ironic that Mamacita was not newsworthy at all prior to this thread (a complete unknown to most) but now OP has single-handedly raised her profile and made her relevant in the poker world. It's reminiscent of how Garrett made Robbi relevant, and now Robbi just won a Global Poker Award yesterday.
lol exactly great post

where are posted pics of the accuser Carnivore so we can discuss his body I bet he eats too much red meat.

This is all his attention grab thread really but it’s setting a precedent of harassing and following others for non legal debts not “informing the community”

So far no one has come forward with serial scamming stories from her, because this non-legal business deal gone wrong wasn’t “stealing” like the words he claims.

Show some baseline respect how is she going to pay you off with integrity without running up a score?


gambling debts arenÂ’t legal for many valid reasons. She was paying $300 in bits if you actually want to see more money from your civil unenforceable gambling arrangement gone wrong give her some time and space and update here reasonably not in a harassing way
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03-05-2023 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ABCforME
lol exactly great post

where are posted pics of the accuser Carnivore so we can discuss his body I bet he eats too much red meat.

This is all his attention grab thread really but it’s setting a precedent of harassing and following others for non legal debts not “informing the community”

So far no one has come forward with serial scamming stories from her, because this non-legal business deal gone wrong wasn’t “stealing” like the words he claims.

Show some baseline respect how is she going to pay you off with integrity without running up a score?


gambling debts arenÂ’t legal for many valid reasons. She was paying $300 in bits if you actually want to see more money from your civil unenforceable gambling arrangement gone wrong give her some time and space and update here reasonably not in a harassing way
Yes, I feel sorry for her too.
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03-05-2023 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Starks Pizzeria
Is there a policy here against telling people to die and talking about eating ass ?

Asking for a friend whose posts keep disappearing
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...osting-258975/
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03-06-2023 , 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by herbalerv
This might be the worst post ever on 2p2 wp
No this one is.

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Originally Posted by ABCforME
lol exactly great post

where are posted pics of the accuser Carnivore so we can discuss his body I bet he eats too much red meat.

This is all his attention grab thread really but it’s setting a precedent of harassing and following others for non legal debts not “informing the community”

So far no one has come forward with serial scamming stories from her, because this non-legal business deal gone wrong wasn’t “stealing” like the words he claims.

Show some baseline respect how is she going to pay you off with integrity without running up a score?


gambling debts arenÂ’t legal for many valid reasons. She was paying $300 in bits if you actually want to see more money from your civil unenforceable gambling arrangement gone wrong give her some time and space and update here reasonably not in a harassing way
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03-06-2023 , 05:46 AM
ABCforME is either Vanessa or one of her simps
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03-06-2023 , 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Numbnutlow
Yes, I feel sorry for her too.
You idiot she literally cashed out funds that didn't belong to her. This wasn't a loan or a staking deal. Her current status is that of a thief and scammer.
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03-06-2023 , 11:40 AM
you used her as an agent. she go your rakeback and did not cash out. your wrong doing imo dont trust others.
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03-06-2023 , 06:09 PM
Yes trusting her was my error, I have no problem admitting that was a dumb mistake. Completely irrelevant though.
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03-06-2023 , 06:12 PM
Word on the street is these “agents” expect a hefty tip in the neighborhood of 10-20% when you win. Given you said you’ve won 300k and the 17k is a “drop in the bucket”, have you tipped your beautiful agent for her services? Perhaps she took it upon herself to tip herself because you had been stiffing her all along while her other clients are making it rain whenever they cash out big. Wouldn’t blame her if that’s the case, she done with cheap ass clients.
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03-06-2023 , 06:15 PM
Some strange posts in this thread that must be trolling. Thanks for sharing, OP.
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03-06-2023 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTruthSayer
Word on the street is these “agents” expect a hefty tip in the neighborhood of 10-20% when you win. Given you said you’ve won 300k and the 17k is a “drop in the bucket”, have you tipped your beautiful agent for her services? Perhaps she took it upon herself to tip herself because you had been stiffing her all along while her other clients are making it rain whenever they cash out big. Wouldn’t blame her if that’s the case, she done with cheap ass clients.
When you lose, do these nice "agents" give you some of your losses back?
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