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Old 07-11-2018, 05:56 PM   #1
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Unsettled OFC debts of Samantha Abernathy, Joshua Beckley and other Poker Players

As a lot of people on this forum already know, about a year and a half ago Jason Mercier accused and spread false information of me after Natasha shared with him her strong opinion of me cheating. Mercier told dozens of players about it, which not only lead to me not being able to get action, but also to very problematic situations where some of the players I was beating did not want to settle. Evidence of cheating was never found, however, situations where Natasha had falsely accused another player to avoid paying was found. The following poker players have a unique opportunity to not only settle with me but to do it in a charitable way as I am requesting 90% of what they owe to be donated to any of the following charitable organizations and the remaining 10% to be settled with me. Not only will this help resolve the situation, but will also have a humanitarian cause. In the previous post I made ‘Jason Mercier spreads unfounded cheating accusations’ some members brought up the possibility of a lawsuit. The possibility of a lawsuit for defamation against Mercier exists, however, if Jason Mercier donates at least 3k, then there will be 0% chance of a lawsuit of way greater than 3k ever occurring.

https://www.actionagainsthunger.org/
https://www.africare.org/
http://www.yokchij.org/

Samantha Abernathy- 8k+5k bank
Samantha lost 8k then we made a deal where 50% of any further losses would go to a special bank that would be used to play any player she gets me and she would get 50% of those profits. After the cheating allegations where confronted publicly she did not feel comfortable doing that. To simplify the matter pertaining to the bank, she can keep 75% of the bank and donate 25% of it. I did offer free private OFC videocoaching to Samantha as evidence of my thought process but she never took it and stopped replying to me.

Joshua Beckley- 10K
Also offered OFC coaching but was not accepted.

Al Borda- 1970
Owner of Skin Industries

David Stroj-2k

Brandon Delnano-1k

David Nowling- 550

Samara Lantiere-300

For those curious on how I became really good, this video of me training and studying from 2016 shows one of the tools I used.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3q...NGalJhOW8/view

In the video I explain some of the intricacies of OFC using one of the best tools there is to study and get better. The tactics trainer from openfacesolutions.com is based on an exhaustive late game GTO solver, however, I do not think it is perfect as it uses wrong conservative fantasy land values since it does not consider fantasy land is worth more on the button. As a final note, an element that is way more important aside from studying is loving and obsessing with the game.
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Old 07-11-2018, 06:00 PM   #2
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Re: Unsettled OFC debts of Samantha Abernathy, Joshua Beckley and other Poker Players

I enjoyed your last thread.
Please don't be spoiling anyone's reveal party again though.
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Old 07-11-2018, 06:07 PM   #3
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Re: Unsettled OFC debts of Samantha Abernathy, Joshua Beckley and other Poker Players

seems scummy they've never paid up after the last thread went the way it did , made it seem you more deserving of being paid / no proof with the cheating accusations


makes sense though, most poker players will instantly take an out to save money if they are given it (especially if they can pull the 'i dont wanna pay a cheater' card to make themselves look better while not paying out)
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Old 07-11-2018, 06:15 PM   #4
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aint nobody got time for dat
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Old 07-11-2018, 06:24 PM   #5
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Re: Unsettled OFC debts of Samantha Abernathy, Joshua Beckley and other Poker Players

OP you are asking them to accept a sort of plea bargain. Problem is that in a plea bargain the accused has to admit guilt or wrong doing and I think it is very unlikely that they will admit any guilt or wrong doing, they will all stick together and say that they either know of or suspect some kind of cheating, whether it is true or not.

In reference to GoofEye's comment re: poker and charity, I agree that there are a lot of issues with it, but I think in this particular situation the OP is just trying to find a creative solution that he thinks might resolve his situation rather than him making some kind of bigger philosophical statement about poker being able to do good in the world, which in my opinion it net doesn't.
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:50 PM   #6
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People who combine charity and poker in any way are the biggest scumbags on planet earth. Also, nobody cares. Get a job, sucker.
0/10 post, would not read again.
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Old 07-12-2018, 06:39 PM   #7
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Re: Unsettled OFC debts of Samantha Abernathy, Joshua Beckley and other Poker Players

Let's see, to divert briefly from this quirky public attempt at shaming people to pay debts incurred in a very possibly corrupt game, if I recall correctly you were challenged to play LIVE, where you would be unable to use your ASTONISHINGLY successful ONLINE tricks.


Your silence over accepting this entirely reasonable challenge tells its own story.

Folks. Don't pay debts to cheats.
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Old 07-12-2018, 06:50 PM   #8
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Beckley is a loser and owes alot of people for alot of things.
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Old 07-12-2018, 11:18 PM   #9
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Ahhh yes.. Good old Mclovin from the Green Room and Pizza King game in Rancocas. After that ME cash was he ever even?if so for how long? Months? Lol maybe he will bink one again..Shady..Shifty kid..
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Old 07-13-2018, 08:07 AM   #10
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I love reading about all of the degeneracy #pokerisdead
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Old 07-13-2018, 08:17 AM   #11
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Re: Unsettled OFC debts of Samantha Abernathy, Joshua Beckley and other Poker Players

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Let's see, to divert briefly from this quirky public attempt at shaming people to pay debts incurred in a very possibly corrupt game, if I recall correctly you were challenged to play LIVE, where you would be unable to use your ASTONISHINGLY successful ONLINE tricks.


Your silence over accepting this entirely reasonable challenge tells its own story.

Folks. Don't pay debts to cheats.
I don't believe that is correct. IIRC, the OP agreed to play live, said he would do it in either Florida or Las Vegas, and then Mercier responded that he wouldn't waste his time playing at the stakes the OP could afford to play. (And this was after stating that he would play any stakes up to 1,000/point.)

But like you, I may not be remembering it 100% correctly, and I'm not interested enough to go searching through that thread.
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Old 07-13-2018, 08:21 AM   #12
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At some point, don't we learn that owning poker debt is like being an unsecured creditor who specializes in payday loans?
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Old 07-13-2018, 09:37 AM   #13
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Why use charity? If they legit owe you they should pay you in full, 100%. If you wanna give to charity, up to you.
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Old 07-13-2018, 11:20 AM   #14
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Why use charity? If they legit owe you they should pay you in full, 100%. If you wanna give to charity, up to you.
Maybe OP is trying to all these folks an arbitrage opportunity to leverage tax deductions for charity ?

Or, more likely, just unable to sue for a gambling debt, let alone an illegal gambling debt.

.... which possibly raises an issue of extortion or vexatious litigation threats ?
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Old 07-13-2018, 01:34 PM   #15
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I don't believe that is correct. IIRC, the OP agreed to play live, said he would do it in either Florida or Las Vegas, and then Mercier responded that he wouldn't waste his time playing at the stakes the OP could afford to play. (And this was after stating that he would play any stakes up to 1,000/point.)

But like you, I may not be remembering it 100% correctly, and I'm not interested enough to go searching through that thread.
This is sort of how I remember it too. They accused the guy of cheating without proof based on the fact that he won and they lost, obviously he cheated because they are Jason and Natasha and he is not.

Then they demanded he play live to prove that he has skills, then avoided him when he agreed, then said they would only play for like $1000 a point or something.

I'm sure I have it all wrong. But the impression I have is that this guy got slandered and stiffed and lost access to the games because he won when they thought he was easy money.
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Old 07-13-2018, 02:26 PM   #16
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This is sort of how I remember it too. They accused the guy of cheating without proof based on the fact that he won and they lost, obviously he cheated because they are Jason and Natasha and he is not.

Then they demanded he play live to prove that he has skills, then avoided him when he agreed, then said they would only play for like $1000 a point or something.

I'm sure I have it all wrong. But the impression I have is that this guy got slandered and stiffed and lost access to the games because he won when they thought he was easy money.
By "lost access to the games", do you mean the people he was beating refused to play him again ?

They no longer thought he was "easy money", now they don't want to play him, so what ?
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Old 07-13-2018, 02:33 PM   #17
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he probably means other players wouldnt play him bc mercier etc said he was cheating
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Old 07-13-2018, 02:37 PM   #18
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People should pay their debts. Accusing someone of cheating seems like a cheap way out. How much faith can you ever have, in such a bride?
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Old 07-13-2018, 02:54 PM   #19
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At some point, don't we learn that owning poker debt is like being an unsecured creditor who specializes in payday loans?
Sure. But how does that help anyone in this thread? Or to say it another way - what's your point?
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Old 07-13-2018, 03:01 PM   #20
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By "lost access to the games", do you mean the people he was beating refused to play him again ?

They no longer thought he was "easy money", now they don't want to play him, so what ?
Lots of winning players get action. Not many accused cheaters get any action at all, even if the accusation is based on nothing more than supposition and innuendo.

As I recall, the community ostracized him after the unsubstantiated cheating allegations were leveled against him. People didn't stop playing him because he was winning, they stopped playing him because Jason said he was cheating based on no evidence other than him thrashing Natasha and being a big winner over all. Also there is the part about them not paying him and going out of their way to tell other people not to play with him. This is just how I remember it from reading the other thread.

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Old 07-13-2018, 03:33 PM   #21
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By "lost access to the games", do you mean the people he was beating refused to play him again ?

They no longer thought he was "easy money", now they don't want to play him, so what ?
They didn't pay him what they owe him. I like how all of a sudden you forget to rationalize something when you're always so good about doing that...
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Old 07-13-2018, 03:51 PM   #22
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What's in it for the so called debtors?

You owe me. You need to pay 10k.
Here's a deal. You still need to pay 10k.

Also, how is that suddenly going to get you the action again?
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Old 07-13-2018, 04:43 PM   #23
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What's in it for the so called debtors?

You owe me. You need to pay 10k.
Here's a deal. You still need to pay 10k.

Also, how is that suddenly going to get you the action again?
You get to deduct charitable contributions unless the tax changes altered things. If every debt I had offered this I’d be ecstatic
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Old 07-13-2018, 06:50 PM   #24
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They didn't pay him what they owe him. I like how all of a sudden you forget to rationalize something when you're always so good about doing that...
I asked a couple of questions, that's all.

I know he says they did not pay him what he says was owed and they say he cheated.

He is complaining that other prospective opponents believe them and not him, and so won't play him... I get that also.

Is OP entitled to opponents, where he either has been (1) mopping the floor with them honestly, (his version) or (2) cheating (the accusers' version).

Either way, "the games" don't exist for OP. His beef is also with "the community" apparently.
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Old 07-13-2018, 07:28 PM   #25
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I think we need a new term for outing a player who hasn't settled an OFC debt.......

Outing Lite
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