I mostly agree with you but it wasn t always the case. And lot of things such as buying full tilt and casino in the US cost a lot of dough. I believe if something ever hapened, it would probably be pre black friday and there will be nor more than 3 or 4 people in the known.

The thing i have a verry hard time to believe is that a company as smart as pokerstars would have had anyone with no consequent shares in the company carrying a burden such as this. Last thing that makes no sense is to say this all story then say you fear for your life and won t give proofs, well if you ever truly feared for your life you would have shut up in the first place.

I call bs. Makes zero sense why such a profitable company would compromise its reputation by allowing something so foolish to go on. The risk would far outweigh the reward.

Nice publicity stunt for Runner Runner, russian friend.

If OP gave a credible story then it would be awesome, but his story is so pathetically full of holes we can't even suspend belief long enough.

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**russomagik Today 02:11 new

I have not been on this forum, but the circumstances izmenilis.Na sports website-chempionat.kom missing news about poker. This is one of the most famous sites in Russia and the news I clarified the situation. You call me a professional poker stupid and uneducated man, but I strongly doubt that stupid people will be able to know something about the Bank of Amerika, or about Isaiah Scheinberg.

translation http://translate.google.ru

Let cut this bull****.

Truth (in my humble opinion, of course) - in past PokerStars had sponsored poker news section on one of most famous sports sites in Russia. Starting from September 1 they decided to end their relationship with this site - it means no more money from Stars for Championat.com and no more poker news there.

I guess russomagik its one of people who lost his job on that site, and now he just tries pretend to act like he knows something about something from someone who knows someone. Thats why that post on Russian forum looks like awfully low-educated language with many syntax mistakes, like GoogleTranslate sometimes do. Its all because russomagik want to hide your true identity. And all this hype just for do some damage to Stars, because of their decision to end sponsorship for Championat.com.

Its all just my personal view on things, and i might be wrong.

Sorry for my rough English)

pasovita.anton, why your man even talking about Championat.com? Who cares about their poker news section being closed?

its problem

lol

Hello 2p2,

While PokerStars has been aware of this thread for some time, we have not posted until now as the story is so absurd that we did not feel it required a response. However, as the thread continues, we have decided to make this post.

PokerStars has never employed anyone even remotely similar to the description provided by the original poster.

There are no 'superusers' on PokerStars and there is no ability to predetermine the outcome of tournaments.

Sincerely,

Michael J
PokerStars Communications Team

The problem with the last line is if you disregard nobody who has paranoid ideas or fake ideas with an agenda then where do you draw the line in spending time investigating to be sure one is not being naive?

I posted links of dozens of different riggie beliefs, and if the sites shared some of their emails you would see people who believe Stars (or any site) is watching them through their computer and controlling what they do with mind control among other colorful claims. Is it naive to disregard those people as well, what if Stars really uses mind control after all? As much as Pokerstars Michael suggests this claim is absurd (which it is), I am sure he could provide emails from customers that make this one seem almost rational by comparison. Those would be amusing to read.

The fact he commented will make no riggies happy, they will simply suggest that proves a cover up is in progress, otherwise why would he comment? Paranoid gonna paranoid.

Any claim of rigging will get a swarm of generally failed players who will unconditionally believe it (to validate their own failure or to help spread misery to others), but if no real proof or evidence is provided, which would be extremely easy if true in this case, then indeed the claim should be disregarded other than for the entertainment value of watching paranoid people unite in their paranoia.

All the best.

close thread imo.

this is idiotic. There's absolutely zero evidence offered in this thread, so of course it's not naive to disregard it. Ignoring it is actually completely logical, as anyone who gives any credence to an OP like this just encourages more morons to make more unfounded accusations.

How the hell has this thread made a fourth page?

pls guys stop killing poker!!!

OP is nonsense, but it's still a dilemma: how can we ever be sure?

i would think that it is in the best interest of sites to have mandatory independent audits. someone mentioned german TÜV (association for pedantic technical inspection). yes, we want this.

Sorry, but what did you expect ?

Stars coming and saying

Pokerstars has always employed superusers and can fix th outcome of tournament ?

Pls if.. only if there is a true corn in this story, stars would not admit now that there is something

I know there is no evidence, hence i would believe the bank stories .. not so much the superuser thingy

anyhow time will tell

You guys got trolled. Hard.

I guess nobody thought to google Daniel Roberts and Marshall Schwartz?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Daniel+Roberts+...shall+Schwartz

Warning: Clicking any of the resulting links may put you on FBI watch lists and/or Stormfront mailing lists.

OP has basically Cut and Pasted a standard white supremacist rant and done Search & Replace on "Jew Conspiracy" and "Controlling teh bankses" for "PokerStars" and "ZOMG! So rigged!"

That's probably why:


I suppose I shouldn't be surprised by the lack of critical thinking skills displayed by some people in this this thread. It is the Internet after all. Still pretty embarrassing for those of you dumb enough to swallow this whole.

The official statement from the Russomagik!Russomagik concede its hype!Pokerstars innocent!http://www.pokeroff.ru/oficialnoe-za...k-post-2892851

For all the conspiracy nutjobs who jumped on this immediately despite the suspiciousness behind the "claim".

2 things come to mind

very few people "jumped on this" if I remember correctly most people just expressed concern. To call someone a conspiracy nutjob for asking questions is way more ignorant and stupid than being concerned about something without having any evidence at hand. But well people have been conditioned to do so by the media so not that this is surprising.

Seems legit. Here is my proof.

PokerStars Hand #103235914818: Tournament #819020010, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXV (7500/15000) - 2013/08/25 21:32:20 ET
Table '819020010 247' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: varconte (593661 in chips)
Seat 3: aaces7 (343771 in chips)
Seat 4: muelleimer20 (957514 in chips)
Seat 5: SundayLights (288611 in chips)
Seat 6: daniBOOM (291428 in chips)
Seat 7: AKBigFish (427076 in chips)
Seat 8: talitay (508779 in chips)
Seat 9: donKK69 (722177 in chips)
varconte: posts the ante 1500
aaces7: posts the ante 1500
muelleimer20: posts the ante 1500
SundayLights: posts the ante 1500
daniBOOM: posts the ante 1500
AKBigFish: posts the ante 1500
talitay: posts the ante 1500
donKK69: posts the ante 1500
muelleimer20: posts small blind 7500
SundayLights: posts big blind 15000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AKBigFish [As Kc]
daniBOOM: folds
AKBigFish: raises 15000 to 30000
talitay: folds
donKK69: folds
varconte: folds
aaces7: calls 30000
muelleimer20: folds
SundayLights: folds
*** FLOP *** [Jh 6s 3c]
AKBigFish: bets 47250
aaces7: raises 47250 to 94500
AKBigFish: raises 301076 to 395576 and is all-in
aaces7: calls 217771 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (83305) returned to AKBigFish
*** TURN *** [Jh 6s 3c] [Qd]
*** RIVER *** [Jh 6s 3c Qd] [9d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
AKBigFish: shows [As Kc] (high card Ace)
aaces7: shows [Qs Ks] (a pair of Queens)
aaces7 collected 719042 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 719042 | Rake 0
Board [Jh 6s 3c Qd 9d]
Seat 2: varconte folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: aaces7 (button) showed [Qs Ks] and won (719042) with a pair of Queens
Seat 4: muelleimer20 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: SundayLights (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: daniBOOM folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: AKBigFish showed [As Kc] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 8: talitay folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: donKK69 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


JK of course.

Riiiiiight.

+1

UB and girah all started with people doubting the stories. Yes this story was suspicious from the start. I would never put shady practices past any big business. I think audits are reasonable.

Have not read anyhting in this thread, not even the first post but just wanted to stop by and lol f'ing hard at the idea of a Russian being the one to call Pokerstars rigged.