Here are some admin notes on the account in question...

Admin Comments: 21-SEP-07 WRA Ok to cash out, TR ID 2545983, $8500, BankWire. Kemly 05-SEP-07 formerly NoPaddles 06-APR-07 name+change+from+nvtease+++CH

I don't know what to make of that, but maybe someone else can. Who's WRA? Kemly? CH?

Here's the money info on the account:

Revenue Information: Poker Rake Rev: 2,130.19 TBJ Net Win/Loss: -113.25 RSB Rake Rev: 0.00 DEP Count: 5 VIP Status Poker SnG Rev: 17.00 TBJ SnG Rev: 0.40 RSB SnG Rev: 0.00 DEP Amount: 1,950.00 VIP Current Pts Poker Tourn Rev: 35.00 TBJ Tourn Rev: 15.00 RSB Tourn Rev: 0.00 WD Count: 56 VIP End Date Poker Total Rev: 2,182.19 TBJ Total Rev: -97.85 RSB Total Rev: 0.00 WD Amount: 170,348.00 UPC Pts: 2,843.63 PBJ Net Win/Loss: 0.00 PBJ Wager: 0.00 Poker BD Balance: Poker BD Pending: UPC Pts (time): 88.00 TOTAL REVENUE: 2,084.34

She withdrew $170,348.

Wonder where that ended up?

well, this ought to make my 60M interview next month far more interesting than it was going to be

Are the superuser accounts thought to be 'history'? I had noticed that several of the superuser associated accounts were two syllables ending with two numbers. (i.e. flatbroke33, WhackMe44, HeadKase01, Crackcorn55, dannyboy55). Eight of the other accounts also ended in a digit. Last Sunday when I saw the UB $200k tourney results with THEFORCE32 taking first and GRIMREAPER88 taking second I was like 'wow - what a coincidence'. I am sure it is just a coincidence but thought I would bring it up.

BTW - Great work again guys!

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
Catfish4u

SPW Holdings is Russ Hamilton's current "Corporation" that is registered in the state of Nevada. The CPA's name on file is Steven Giorgione. Another search shows that he is also the CPA on file for a couple of Hellmuth's corps and Antonio's.

Not implying any wrongdoing on his part, but I wonder if he ever wondered where the extra $$$ was coming from.

CH= Current Handle?

Did this account actually become Kemly and not sleepless on 9/5/07?

This was said by Dan Druff in the old absolute cheater thread on 2+2 and he later said that his information was incorrect and took back this statement.

lol, when I first saw Makar's name I knew I had heard it somewhere else recently. I remember her sweating Moore the night before the final table while I was there sweating SirWatts.

I wish I knew. Anything we've heard lately is likely to be BS, I wish someone I trusted had heard something reliable before all this started.

I was playing mixed game with him Hellmuth (briefly) right before they went public and he mumbled something about being able to pay all his debts soon. I had no idea they were about to go public and didn't hear about it until a long time after the fact. I heard some ridiculous numbers thrown around after the fact. If they are true and the company was sold so cheaply after the UIEGA, then someone was defrauded.

I got refunded from the superusers at UB and just assume that whatever they admitted to cheating me out of, it is probably 3-4 times more so I am looking at a 100k+ refund and I'd like to get it.

From what I hear Travis Makar might of been one of the software guys in charge of the UB software... Im waiting to hear if this is the truth or not. But if anyone can confirm this before I can confirm it, great.

I guess I will let you guys know soon when I find out.

Looking at the two screen-shots Apefish seeems to be right. All of the admin comments appear to end with a name - presumably of the person who wrote the comment. If that's right the comments on the kid55 screen-shot are signed by:
SArayaub sec [presumably S. Araya Ultimate Bet security],
SArayaub sec [presumably S. Araya Ultimate Bet security],
TF
TF
hanz
Kemly

The last one is half cut off - but in fact one can still read that it is:
26 SEP.WRA Ok to cash out TR ID 2579588 $23000 BankWire Kemly

On the buckskin shot the comments are signed by
SEC TEA//JohnMC
ale
ALE
J.Araya
TF
TF

In the third one from the bottom WRA is written as W.R.A., so it looks like this is an abbreviation. (TR ID is Trace Identity [number].)

The second comment on the list looks like ale correcting the third comment - the 13 Aug note also talks about a splits into two $5000 transactions.

[Side question: the font for the first comment different from those for all of the others - bold & 1pt(?) larger(???). Is that to show it's importance?]

Ok that was long-winded, but it then looks like your first comment:
21-SEP-07 WRA Ok to cash out, TR ID 2545983, $8500, BankWire. Kemly
is pretty much like the entries for kid55 and buckskin. For the rest of it...was the format like this?

05-SEP-07 formerly NoPaddles
06-APR-07 name+change+from+nvtease+++CH

Are the '+'s yours or UBs? Is CH likely to be the name of the admin comment writer rather than part of the comment body?

Regarding the number about what they went public for:

http://www.socialnetworkingwatch.com...ierson-io.html

"The founders of iovation founded a previous business that we sold in 2004 for several hundred million dollars."

It was then re-sold for $130 million with $10 million upfront and $120 million to be paid over time. Certainly sounds like there could have been some sort of fraud involved there, although if it happened just around the UIGEA, that sort of valuation drop could easily be justified if the fraudster needed a way to explain it away.

http://kickasspoker.blogspot.com/200...brands-to.html

How about this... I'll email some solid and never-before-released dirt to someone who creates a *good* cliffnotes post. With bolding, good paragraphs, indenting, well-summarized, skips the crap, links to key posts, etc.

Gogogogo.

PS - The dirt is well worth it.

I wonder if that 120 million was ever paid? Looks like they had an excuse already cooked up on why they would never be able to pay the 120 million back to shareholders.

According to this link:
http://www.investegate.co.uk/Article...5080700245563C

Excapsa went public, valued at 400 million in US dollars, raising about 100 million for the owners. Holy ****. I guess they kept cheating as a matter of principle:

"The Group successfully floated on to AIM in February 2006
in conjunction with a placing of 51,087,374 Common Shares at a Placing Price of
110p per share, market capitalisation of £214.2 million. Excapsa develops,
maintains and markets multi-player, real time, Internet enables poker software
and manages the Excapsa Poker Network. Licensee brands include
DevilfishPoker.com, UltimateBet.com, UltimatePoker.com, CardPlayerPoker.com,
MagicPalacePoker.com, DV8Poker.com and NationalLampoonPoker.com among others."

I also found this quote. I guess giving companies away was all the rage after the UIEGA was passed.

$1 + amount of customers deposits. LOL.

Not sure if it's been posted by here is his take on online cheating... funny he mentions fulltilt and pokerstars by name but no mention of UB ...

<< November 29th, 2007

If you are playing online you are being cheated

This is just fact. Every other day it seems like there is some type of scandal yet if you sign onto Full Tilt, Poker Stars or any site really there is no discernible drop off. EVER!!! Look, I realize that people want to be upset and I would love to see more protections. Let me give you some examples of what could be done but won’t because unless all of your competition plays by the same rules you are screwed.

1. Require every player to send in identification. To get a new account you need to be who you say you are.

2. You can only play on one IP. Only one player per IP, no exceptions.

3. From 100 down any tournament over say $100 needs to be gone over with a fine tooth comb.

4. Stop inner account transfers.

It isn’t the guy that came in second that got screwed. It is the guy that placed 4th, 8th or 21st that got knocked out because of deception. Fact is, no matter what protections are put in place you will be cheated, that is just fact. If you think anything differently you are kidding yourself.

But let’s just stop saying “I am going to quit playing online” because you won’t. Certainly the sites should do a better job of protecting us but the reality is that very few people win. When you lose in a Casino often you feel you were cheated. The only difference here is that you can take the probably out when it comes to online poker. Whenever money is involved people will try to deceive other people, the sites are doing a woeful job in protecting us from cheaters, that needs to change but I doubt it will. Competitively it puts them at a disadvantage.

So does that mean you can’t win online? Of course that answer is no. I am asked all the time “don’t you feel like you are being cheated” and my answer is always the same, “if they are I hope they continue”. I am nowhere near the biggest winner online but I have done O’kay, if I never read forums I would likely never have any idea I am being cheated on a daily basis.

Yet again everyone on 2+2 and Pocketfives are screaming bloody murder. The facts are these:

Cheating happens

You know cheating happens

Yet you play the Sunday’s every week

Can we just quit pretending to be naive about this and admit that we just can’t stop playing? Call it addiction, call it whatever you need to make yourself feel better but whenever these scandals happen it doesn’t change a damn thing and the reason is simple. Most people are playing for fun and don’t mind losing a few dollars.

So there is your answer if you knew you were being cheated would you still play the game and for most players playing online today that answer is a resounding “Yes”. >>

Here are some NLH session results for nopaddles, just one of the dozens of accounts implicated. Seeing it like this drives home how much has been stolen from so many.

Thanks UBRus. $150,000 in less than 8 hours of total play time. Not a bad days work. So sick.

Do you have any data on nvtease by any chance?

Bumping this thread up, I've taken some of the posts from the Annie Duke/UB thread and moved them into its own thread in my weak version of a cliffnotes thread.

You should add the cliff notes of the first half of that thread (NoLimitLeagues or something did one I think).

Found it: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...t=#post5022980

Hey Kev, I was working on some cliffnotes to the old thread, do you want me to just post them in here rather than starting a new thread?

I dont know if this was posted yet but Haim Bajayo is a 22 year old kid from Flushing and Eli had cashed in his first event back in 1995. Can we confirm they are brothers? In regards to Haim selling real estate, Im pretty sure someone else related to him like his mother is the one selling it. I have an address and phone number for both Haim and Yossi (Im guessing his mother) if it is of any significance.

This all goes back to a ten high call down, and Trambo looking through his data.. Unbelievable.

David Sklansky has been following this, why doesn't he say anything?

Go ahead and post...

I've noticed this too.

This is some utterly sick investigating all.

If you have only read this thread and not the other one then this might look funny. It was noted that I didn't bring up UB at this point, almost saying that I was hiding the scandal, which in fact has not been true at all. Multiple articles have been on the front page of my site regarding both the AP and the UB scandal. This post was specifically referring to the cheating scandals on Stars and FTP at the time where people were getting their accounts closed.

The funniest part about being quoted out of context in that article is that I was actually offering up solutions as to how things could be fixed and that counting on the players to stop was just never going to happen. A position that many others take and has been proven to be true over all of these controversies.

Certainly you can consider me guilty of being duped but this was one post I feel needed to be explained.