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04-17-2017 , 01:54 PM
He's also not allowed to take drugs/ped's but it's not like he's going to get tested so....
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04-18-2017 , 12:15 AM
Saw an article about a Bollywood star who lost a ton of weight on the ketogenic diet - and he had a trainer, who maybe cooked his meals as well?
Tanmay Bhat's Fitness Trainer Reveals How He Lost More Than 110 Kgs, And It's Really Inspiring

Maybe they'll hire a coach soon - the one that helped the Bollywood star has a bunch of vids on youtube and they were quite interesting ... could see how a coach could really make a huge difference ...
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Science of Keto




Portion Sizes and Recipes




Mental Game Stuff - Dealing with Cravings


When Brian Rast did that bike ride, it seemed like he may have had some side bets? But maybe Jaime, Matt and Bill had different terms?

My metabolism's pretty high, so haven't ever given too much thought to healthy eating before Guess eating healthy means eating less processed foods, more chicken and beans, and only healthy fats like nuts and avocados? Might be interesting to check out some recipes ...
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04-19-2017 , 02:21 AM
"We're not doing a calorie deficit" -Jaime Staples 2017
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04-19-2017 , 04:22 AM
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"We're not doing a calorie deficit" -Jaime Staples 2017
I'm all for jaime bettering his life and crushing this bet but that quote on his vlog today kinda made me ???
"If were doing a calorie deficit I understand this kebab is a death trap but we're not so we're good!"

Also the 1L bottle of diet coke with his 3 eggs and peas breakfeast doesn't seem GTO
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04-19-2017 , 04:39 AM
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I'm all for jaime bettering his life and crushing this bet but that quote on his vlog today kinda made me ???
"If were doing a calorie deficit I understand this kebab is a death trap but we're not so we're good!"

Also the 1L bottle of diet coke with his 3 eggs and peas breakfeast doesn't seem GTO
what is this mean? is matt trying to get above where jamie is now ? or it doesn't make me sense... either way it doesn't make me sense
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04-19-2017 , 04:59 AM
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I'm all for jaime bettering his life and crushing this bet but that quote on his vlog today kinda made me ???
"If were doing a calorie deficit I understand this kebab is a death trap but we're not so we're good!"

Also the 1L bottle of diet coke with his 3 eggs and peas breakfeast doesn't seem GTO
I'm quite amazed at how widespread the "coke zero/etc diet drink is as bad for you as regular coke" -myth is. Absolutely amazed. This has really spread to all classes of regular people hasn't it? Including you (plz don't take offense). It's nonsense. Diet coke does not spike insulin and does not contain any calories

The only way diet coke would be bad for fat loss is if it sets off sugary cravings. This is a moot point if one counts calories though, and artificially sweetened drinks might as well keep sugar cravings at bay since you can "feed the craving" with the sweetened drink instead.

Absolutely amazed at how many regular people think that drinking a lot of diet soda is bad for someone on a diet, and how common it is to think they spike insulin levels. Which they don't.

/rant after rant on this topic

Cringed hard when Jaime slapped that stick of butter in the pan and fried some eggs though. ****ing lol. Way to keep calories down, Jaime. But hey, I guess we're not doing that whole caloric deficit thing so yarp...
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04-19-2017 , 05:11 AM
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I'm quite amazed at how widespread the "coke zero/etc diet drink is as bad for you as regular coke" -myth is. Absolutely amazed. This has really spread to all classes of regular people hasn't it? Including you (plz don't take offense). It's nonsense. Diet coke does not spike insulin and does not contain any calories

The only way diet coke would be bad for fat loss is if it sets off sugary cravings. This is a moot point if one counts calories though, and artificially sweetened drinks might as well keep sugar cravings at bay since you can "feed the craving" with the sweetened drink instead.

Absolutely amazed at how many regular people think that drinking a lot of diet soda is bad for someone on a diet, and how common it is to think they spike insulin levels. Which they don't.

/rant after rant on this topic

Cringed hard when Jaime slapped that stick of butter in the pan and fried some eggs though. ****ing lol. Way to keep calories down, Jaime. But hey, I guess we're not doing that whole caloric deficit thing so yarp...
I never said diet coke is as bad as regular coke, I just feel in general you need to give things like that up to develop better habits / in general I think drinking just water is much better for your health than diet coke, diet coke will help keep up your cravings for sugar and junk food from my own experiences vs cutting it out and not getting used to putting junk into your body. Obviously if you are someone who is super disciplined you could probably incorporate treats like diet pop into your diet to keep yourself happy but I feel someone who is overweight and trying to lose weight it is counter productive for sure.

Also besides the point, I've never heard of pop being a good addition to a healthy breakfeast
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04-19-2017 , 05:48 AM
This "we are doing Keto...therefore" seems like a classic excuse.

Constantly eating take-aways and at restaurants is just a horrible way to go about things. You have no control over the food you are eating and it is (hopefully) prepared for taste not for whatever diet programme you are doing.
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04-19-2017 , 07:03 AM
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This "we are doing Keto...therefore" seems like a classic excuse.

Constantly eating take-aways and at restaurants is just a horrible way to go about things. You have no control over the food you are eating and it is (hopefully) prepared for taste not for whatever diet programme you are doing.
Only following his diet through this thread but it seems like he's asked himself "which diet will let me eat the most".

If you've got 100+ pounds to lose you don't need any fad diet (apparently it's a diet designed to limit seizures in epilepsy patients?). Download a calorie tracking app on your phone, use it honestly, eat 2000 calories/day and the weight will fall off. You'll lose 2 pounds/week not moving. Saying "Keto" doesn't negate the calories in a stick of butter.

It's possible he's doing all this for publicity and doesn't plan to win the bet.
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04-19-2017 , 09:51 AM
Yeah in Jaime's mind, keto diet = cut the carbs but can still eat a load of crap. Minimal exercise and still lose weight. The boy is just lazy.

From his videos he has barely done anything to really have a go at this challenge so far. He will not succeed if he doesn't pick up the pace soon.

A 40/40/20 macro split would be much better with a load of cardio exercise. At his size he could eat over 3000 calories a day and still lose weight for months if he worked hard.

And his brother should be shovelling 5 plates of brown rice and 2 chicken breasts in every day, laced in a tasty sauce. Then lifting heavy.
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04-19-2017 , 10:24 AM
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Yeah in Jaime's mind, keto diet = cut the carbs but can still eat a load of crap. Minimal exercise and still lose weight. The boy is just lazy.

From his videos he has barely done anything to really have a go at this challenge so far. He will not succeed if he doesn't pick up the pace soon.

A 40/40/20 macro split would be much better with a load of cardio exercise. At his size he could eat over 3000 calories a day and still lose weight for months if he worked hard.

And his brother should be shovelling 5 plates of brown rice and 2 chicken breasts in every day, laced in a tasty sauce. Then lifting heavy.

40/40/20 macro split would give him way more protein than he requires for his goals. Dude could get away with like 140g a day no problem, and fill the rest of his calories with fats and carbs instead, for sanity reasons.

And bro, brown rice and chicken breast for gaining weight? lmao, brother should be having chocolate chip cookies dipped in nutella.

It's a caloric equation for both of them, nothing else.
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04-19-2017 , 11:09 AM
Nah those macro splits are a great all rounder, suitable for any dieting strategy or life style. A decent amount of carbs and high protein intake, best of both worlds.

And yes, clean calories are far better than eating junk, and will bang on the weight just the same if you eat enough of them.
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04-19-2017 , 11:19 AM
I do agree that whole foods are better for health reasons than processed foods are. My point is; have you tried eating 5000kcal per day in brown rice and chicken? lol And even if you by some magical feat of hunger could manage that for a prolonged period of time something tells me little brother Staples might not have share your appetite..
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04-19-2017 , 12:05 PM
Actually yes, I eat 3 equivalent meals every day of 1K calories, plus snack in-between.

But that was just one example. You could do one with a tomato based sauce, one with a curry, etc. Then you could do a big batch of chilli or bolognese with loads of mince beef content. Plenty of ways to mix up the core idea.

Mini stapler needs to get cracking to help his brother out. It's no good nibbling on a few extra fries each day. They could both eat the exact same meals, with Jaime just having less. Then with Jaime focusing on cardio and Matt focus on heavy lifting.
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04-19-2017 , 12:50 PM
has mini staples even done a set of squats yet?
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04-19-2017 , 12:52 PM
loctus it isn't hard, you can eat ~2500 calories in solid food in 3 comfortably sized meals (even for ppl without big appetites) and then get the rest from homemade mass gainer shakes or something at 2-3 a day depending. Healthy ones like oatmeal, banana, pb, milk ect...
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04-19-2017 , 01:36 PM
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has mini staples even done a set of squats yet?
Yea he is lifting

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loctus it isn't hard, you can eat ~2500 calories in solid food in 3 comfortably sized meals (even for ppl without big appetites) and then get the rest from homemade mass gainer shakes or something at 2-3 a day depending. Healthy ones like oatmeal, banana, pb, milk ect...
Well, you just introduced a completely different scenario than the one I critiqued lol
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04-19-2017 , 02:05 PM
Keto diets are horrible for you.
Just a diet that is easy to market, because it's an excuse to keep eating bacon
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04-19-2017 , 08:07 PM
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Only following his diet through this thread but it seems like he's asked himself "which diet will let me eat the most".

If you've got 100+ pounds to lose you don't need any fad diet (apparently it's a diet designed to limit seizures in epilepsy patients?). Download a calorie tracking app on your phone, use it honestly, eat 2000 calories/day and the weight will fall off. You'll lose 2 pounds/week not moving. Saying "Keto" doesn't negate the calories in a stick of butter.

It's possible he's doing all this for publicity and doesn't plan to win the bet.
Tyrion Lannister is a Targaryen.
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04-19-2017 , 09:30 PM
Jaime knows what he's doing guys watch the vlogs he has said he has lost 100lbs multiple times in his life, so lets say he gets to 200lbs easily there is still not a chance Matt gets to 200lbs, now if Jaime can get to 180lbs by some miracle i still dont think they have any chance Matt is not gonna get any bigger than 150lbs lol
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04-20-2017 , 12:48 AM
Jaime never used to show what he was eating on stream, so not sure how his meal sizes compare to what they used to be - guess if they're about the same as usual, just adding in some exercise must be making some difference?

Something can relate to from Jaime's videos is not looking forward to exercising when the weather's not nice out. May have to get myself one of those exercise bike to use in the Winter time, to make it easier to squeeze in some physical activity and get those feel-good chemicals going Although if Jaime and Matt are traveling quite a bit, guess for them they'll have to find other things to do - maybe their new coach will have some other ideas for exercising indoors when it's raining outside and stuff?

Guess it's been about a month since this challenge started, but guess these are pretty big changes they're trying to make, and maybe learning new stuff may take time too - the coach should big a big help!
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04-20-2017 , 07:17 AM
I will be interested to see how an online trainer works out.

Personally, I would want a chef and then a guy to come in person every day to kick my butt. That way no cheat meals, proper portion sizes and no slacking off the exercise with claims that half press-ups and 30s wall sits equal a hardcore session of circuits.

It is like all these home work out programmes like Insanity and P90x. They work, but you have to be the sort of person with the motivation and sticking power to see them through every single day, and do the works-out at the intensity they require. As a result loads of people fail to get the results they want.
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04-20-2017 , 09:41 AM
Going to be interesting for sure once the trainer comes, have a feeling Jaime is going to have a nervous break down if he has to change up his current "diet" foods and meal plan. The guy just needs to fully commit to this and realize how much better his future life/health could be. Also the $3k/150k might not be enough for him to be actually motivated into changing his lifetime horrible eating habits. Since he would only be losing $1.5k if he doesn't win and even winning the $75k probably means a lot less to him then his brother. If I was the mini stapler though I would make sure that Jaime was giving it his all or would just buy out. Best of luck to them both but with the way Jaime has an excuse are "reasoning" for everything he is just setting himself up for failure and I think someone close to them and needs to be an actual friend and help him get his shieet together.
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04-20-2017 , 02:35 PM
surely there are way too many carbs in a single kebab for it to be part of a ketogenic diet, lol

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Keto diets are horrible for you.
could you elaborate a bit? i have no strong opinion on the matter, just interested. from what i gather, eating a lot of fat is fine if you're healthy (dunno how healthy staples is.) anecdotally i have found that carbs are necessary for the kind of mental focus required in poker (dunno about lowstakes MTTs).
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04-20-2017 , 04:28 PM
Has he thought about the hookers and blow diet?

It worked for stu ungar.
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