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Tony Bigcharles (sevencard2003) arrested for making threats via his blog. Tony Bigcharles (sevencard2003) arrested for making threats via his blog.

04-30-2018 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
"I wish" is not the same as "I am going to". By the way reporting fake bomb threats is illegal.

Did not see the facebook post by the way, solely judging on that part.
But he didn't just say that he wishes that people were dead. He goes on to say that he wants to be the person to arrange it, to do something which would get his name in the papers on TV forever like so many others have done. to kill people simply for being happy....
04-30-2018 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
By the way I don't see the death threat? Yes, he would like people to be dead but he doesn't target specific people and I don't see a reason to arrest him..
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
The blog post on it's own is disturbing but not illegal (in most places). He basically says he wishes people are dead. He doesn't hint to anyone or calls names.
But a lot of mass killers couldn’t name their victims and don’t really know the people they are targeting.

Also, he does hint at the people he made threats to. He said he sees people that look happy and wishes he could arrange their deaths.
04-30-2018 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
It doesn't really matter the post is illegal or not - there's contemplation of suicide and possibly of doing harm to others. Seems like a no-brainer to report and let the experts decide what the best course of action is.
Whether or not an action is illegal matters a lot to whether the actor should be reported to the police and locked up.

Absolutely not a no-brainer to report this if you know or suspect that it will result in TBC's arrest and incarceration. I fear the unintended consequences (reinforcing and justifying TBC's misanthropy).
04-30-2018 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Superfluous Man
Whether or not an action is illegal matters a lot to whether the actor should be reported to the police and locked up.

Absolutely not a no-brainer to report this if you know or suspect that it will result in TBC's arrest and incarceration. I fear the unintended consequences (reinforcing and justifying TBC's misanthropy).
So what? Coddle him instead? Imo lock him up and throw away the key. You are misguided if you think you can help this guy, you need to be thinking about protecting yourself from people like this.

And you can and should report suspicious activity even if no crime is involved. Reporting this guy IS a no brainer.
04-30-2018 , 10:40 PM
I know TBC would never hurt anyone. But the police do not know that.
deadly forced could have been used on TBC.
04-30-2018 , 10:42 PM
How many mass shooters have served jail time beforehand? Maybe it would have served them some good. People who experience some hardships in life are less likely to be mass shooters.
04-30-2018 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by docglock
I know TBC would never hurt anyone. But the police do not know that.
deadly forced could have been used on TBC.
How do you know this? Are you in his head? Because he has expressed wanting to kill people and wanting to kill himself recently so you are either really ignorant or not apprised of the situation.
04-30-2018 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Superfluous Man
Absolutely not a no-brainer to report this if you know or suspect that it will result in TBC's arrest and incarceration. I fear the unintended consequences (reinforcing and justifying TBC's misanthropy).
Every time he sees a black man with a white woman, that reinforces his racist and misanthropic views. Are you also going to suggest that interracial couples should break up to avoid the unintended consequences of reinforcing the attitudes of TBC and his ilk?
04-30-2018 , 10:54 PM
Pretty surprised that some of you guys are defending TBC. I have read a lot of his blog over the years just for the sheer LOLs. It's hard to imagine a worse human being than him. He is selfish, racist, unintelligent, a horrible father, a horrible son, a religious nutjob, treats the few people who do take an interest in him horribly, etc, etc etc. Now he is threating to commit a mass killing and off himself? Whether he is dangerous or not his own words make him seem dangerous and at best unhinged and needs to be locked up.

It is an absolute miracle this guy has any money and isn't more homeless than he is.
04-30-2018 , 10:56 PM
He needs help ASAP. Hopefully, he is not past the point of no return and cannot be helped. Sad situation, but an all too common one as well.
04-30-2018 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sasha Foxxx :)
He needs help ASAP. Hopefully, he is not past the point of no return and cannot be helped. Sad situation, but an all too common one as well.
He is past the point of no return and there are 10 years of publically available blog posts that prove it.
04-30-2018 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
So what? Coddle him instead? Imo lock him up and throw away the key. You are misguided if you think you can help this guy, you need to be thinking about protecting yourself from people like this.
I don't think leaving someone alone is the same as coddling him. I'm obviously not going to convince you that people shouldn't be imprisoned for life for expressing bad thoughts on the internet, so I won't bother trying.

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Originally Posted by BDHarrison
Every time he sees a black man with a white woman, that reinforces his racist and misanthropic views. Are you also going to suggest that interracial couples should break up to avoid the unintended consequences of reinforcing the attitudes of TBC and his ilk?
No, I do not suggest that people should live their lives to avoid the "unintended consequences" of making bigots angry. How can you even argue that "interracial couples existing" is somehow similar to "incarcerating someone for something he said on the internet?"
04-30-2018 , 11:00 PM
2 Questions:

Where is TBC being held ?

Does anyone have plans to visit TBC ?
04-30-2018 , 11:06 PM
I hope he gets the help he needs though I strongly suspect that he won't. Ending up in the prison system is not going to help him in the slightest and really could light the fuse that will completely destroy him.

How many people (let alone those who may have mental health difficulties as well) come out of prison less racist and violent than they went in? There is a chance he never comes out (and likely someone else/other people as well).
04-30-2018 , 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by w00t
2 Questions:

Where is TBC being held ?
Clark County Detention Center - I think.

You can type in 'bigcharles' and find his details here: http://redrock.clarkcountynv.gov/ccd...odySearch.aspx

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Originally Posted by w00t
Does anyone have plans to visit TBC ?
Probably not. He will see a judge tomorrow at 1pm.

Cash Bail and Surety Bail are each 20k. Not sure what exactly that means, but his latest bankroll update was around 15k and he's technically homeless and unemployed.

His life is sure to be even more of a disaster than normal in the immediate future. Hopefully someone around Vegas can go say Hi or something and tell him to hang in there. In the end, I could see this whole ordeal having a very positive influence on his life. I imagine a judge forcing him to get a job, stay out of casinos and see a doctor. Would be great to never see another blog about his VBJ sessions.
04-30-2018 , 11:39 PM
what's a TBC?
04-30-2018 , 11:47 PM
the prosecutor will most likely offer supervised probation for ~2 years with an additional mental health treatment clause and possibly suspended jail time to his public defender or lawyer. also likely he’ll be denied bail at the next court date and will sit until the actual trial date.
04-30-2018 , 11:47 PM
Why do they got WMD on his charges. Isn't that a little extreme or standard for that kind threat? I hope they have him in protective custody in an isolated cell
04-30-2018 , 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by homerdash
the prosecutor will most likely offer supervised probation for ~2 years with an additional mental health treatment clause and possibly suspended jail time to his public defender or lawyer. also likely he’ll be denied bail at the next court date and will sit until the actual trial date.


TBC's public defender.
04-30-2018 , 11:56 PM
I'm rooting for Tony to get ok.
05-01-2018 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Stormtrooper97
Why do they got WMD on his charges. Isn't that a little extreme or standard for that kind threat? I hope they have him in protective custody in an isolated cell
The crime he is charged with is: "Making threats or conveying false information concerning acts of terrorism, weapons of mass destruction, lethal agents or toxins prohibited". That is just an abbreviated form that fits into the space. "Conveying false information", as I understand it, means that he is committing a crime even if he has no intention of actually causing harm.
05-01-2018 , 12:29 AM
But intent means a lot right.
05-01-2018 , 01:14 AM


I hope he gets help.
05-01-2018 , 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by R*R
But intent means a lot right.
IANAL, but my understanding is that he is guilty if he intended to cause alarm even if he had no intention of behaving violently. He might still be guilty of something if a jury believed that a reasonable person would be aware that his behavior could be taken as a serious threat. It is also possible that the goal is to overcharge him in the hopes that it provides leverage to get him to accept some sort of help.
05-01-2018 , 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Superfluous Man
Whether or not an action is illegal matters a lot to whether the actor should be reported to the police and locked up.

Absolutely not a no-brainer to report this if you know or suspect that it will result in TBC's arrest and incarceration. I fear the unintended consequences (reinforcing and justifying TBC's misanthropy).
Well, my hope is that he would get the appropriate treatment.

The thing is, if it isn't reported, he's definitely not going to get the appropriate treatment. I'd think reporting it, where there's some chance of him getting help, would be better than doing nothing. Especially if people who seem to know he would never do anything harmful are wrong.

      
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