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Tony Bigcharles (sevencard2003) arrested for making threats via his blog. Tony Bigcharles (sevencard2003) arrested for making threats via his blog.

04-30-2018 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cheesefist
If he is a potential danger to himself or others, then it is necessary.

But almost no one gets mental health support in jail and it almost never makes anyone better.
"Lessons learned and repercussions" or any positive impact statistically will lose out to more irrationality, bitterness, distrust, isolation, and lashing out from angry people.

I truly hope he gets help.
Listen, it's about his brain learning that if I say I will commit violence I go to jail therefore if I commit violence even worse things will happen to me. Allowing him to make the statements he made, with no repercussions is what leads people like him to actually go out and commit the crimes.

This is a cry for help and getting thrown in jail, while harsh, is in it's own way the response that TBC is looking for. Trust me, he thinks life sucks on the outside? Let him get a taste of being locked up and he might come out realizing life on the outside ain't so bad and he shouldn't do anything to jeopardize that.
04-30-2018 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokeraddict
Josie - In the threads after my tweet about the arrest, some mentioned he has citizenship issues and it became a side debate. Do you know anything about that?
He has blogged about having citizenship issues due to being born in Canada with a Canadian birth certificate to an American mother.

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when i first moved into my place i wanted to use part of the $20k to get some help with getting my ID problems resolved. but i cannot figure out what to do first, and now i no longer have the funds. plus i needed to do this only if i couldve got it for more than 4 weeks since it takes up to 8 weeks. the citizenship attorney i contacted via his website email never replied back. im not sure which document i need first or whether ill need the N-600, the N-400 or just the consuelar report of birth. but it dont seem i know how to get any of these, so i need to just pay someone who can help. i wish i could give someone else the money to do the work, because im not understanding where to start. do i try to get the passport first? my computer dont have a printer to download forms either. but it did say if u were without the proof of your conseular birth report u could just pay extra $150 and theyd look for it for u. this would make the passport like $250+
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yes i know i need to be in vegas to get help with social agencies, or even to go and apply for food stamps, but as a Christian and a republican i not only feel thats wrong morally, i am afraid they wont accept me because i cant prove my citizenship because i was born in canada. to an american parent, but still , it caused trouble years ago.

all i want is a disabled bus pass, and to get ssi again, im broke and desperate and dont want to go back to panhandling. thats how i got the money for years. is there anyone willing to pay the fee for me so i dont have to beg for money?

i cannot get a NV id because of it so every 4 yrs i have to return to louisiana to get an id there. need a way to solve that too. i just cant bring myself to be in vegas on the streets if i can survive in Jean another 3-4 weeks off old comp dollars from the goldstrike casino. where else can i live $12 a night in a casino?
04-30-2018 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ChipWrecked
It's a shame this went down in Nevada. There is no help in that state. Too bad he wasn't 5150'd or whatever it would be called in California. He's ****ed.
Also my first thoughts, as a non-expert in legal and medical matters.

Those were the weird racist and violent musings of a man who has hit some sort of bottom and I'm grateful that someone reported him to the authorities so that they can evaluate the situation and get him off the streets for now.

I'm wondering how much the recent tragedy in Vegas effected police response.

We hear/read about the all the big winners in Vegas, as they pose for their winners' pics w a jubilant rail. But for every one of those pics, there are probably hundreds of people in casinos, living a dreadful lifestyle and with decaying mental health. It's analogous to the thousands that flock to Hollywood to chase a dream, w most ending up not making it and some cant deal w their dreams being crushed. Cautionary gamblers' tale for sure.

Last edited by MacauBound; 04-30-2018 at 04:58 PM.
04-30-2018 , 05:12 PM
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the government did it shut down pokerstars because they werent getting revenue from it, or did my Lord God send people into government to shut it down because he hated me for being a sinner? the whole world hates me because i was raised into the Christian religion and the fundamentalist part of it at that. a part that believes in creation instead of evolution, the rapture and that there is a literal hell and that no homosexuals will go to heaven. the whole world hates me because i am white too, except for my saviour and master, donald trump the man. the great white hope in other words.
To be honest this is the most pathetic part of the whole thing.

By the way I don't see the death threat? Yes, he would like people to be dead but he doesn't target specific people and I don't see a reason to arrest him. Give everybody an instant kill button where you suffer no legal consequences on the road and every time someone gets cut off I guarantee about 10% is going to press that button as an impulse. Of course most people don't act on these impulses but just because he writes down the words doesn't mean he will actually do it.

But that's the thing with health care in America, people that need mental help get thrown in jail and get an even bigger resentment towards society. This is just going to reinforce his feelings of hate and make it more likely he will do something with it. He needs proper help.
04-30-2018 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis

By the way I don't see the death threat?
It's the part where he says:

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i see people out having a good time not a care in the world and i just wish they were dead and that i could be the one to arrange it, to do something which would get my name in the papers on TV forever like so many others have done. to kill people simply for being happy, and for not having to sweat the hustle everyday to survive like i do. for i can never be happy.
Then links to it in a Facebook post that begins "Before I commit suicide...."
04-30-2018 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
Yes, he would like people to be dead but he doesn't target specific people and I don't see a reason to arrest him.
Wow, this is an amazing loophole you've discovered. So Tony can call in a bomb threat to his local elementary school, and it's all good as long as he doesn't name specific children? Nice!
04-30-2018 , 05:28 PM
"I wish" is not the same as "I am going to". By the way reporting fake bomb threats is illegal.

Did not see the facebook post by the way, solely judging on that part.
04-30-2018 , 05:36 PM
Tony Bigcharles · Deadwood, South Dakota
i have been a convicted felon since i was 20 and now im 42. why? because i was having mental health problems as a young man, and i pretended to commit a robbery at a hotel, when i had absolutely no intention of taking anything or stealing, and i asked the clerk for money pretended to have a gun, and then walked out without taking any money. i was in jail 6 months waiting to go to court, and ended up 3 yrs probation and had to attend group therapy sessions with my probation officer for those with emotional problems. it would be totally unfair for them to be treated lesser than me. am still angry over this conviction because id like to be able to get a poker dealing job. anyones welcome to PM me on facebook to discuss this.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...not-crime.html
04-30-2018 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
"I wish" is not the same as "I am going to". By the way reporting fake bomb threats is illegal.

Did not see the facebook post by the way, solely judging on that part.
There is enough there that police should certainly check it out and question him. It is within the range of possibilities that additional statements he may have made are what led to his arrest.

He doesn't have to actually intend to hurt anyone. If he wrote that with the intention of making people be alarmed that he might cause violence, then he could be guilty of making a terroristic threat.
04-30-2018 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker

This is a cry for help and getting thrown in jail, while harsh, is in it's own way the response that TBC is looking for. Trust me, he thinks life sucks on the outside? Let him get a taste of being locked up and he might come out realizing life on the outside ain't so bad and he shouldn't do anything to jeopardize that.
Pretty optimistic to expect a mentally ill unstable person to make a rational assessment of his worsened situation and conclude that he has to make life changes and stick to them. Skills which have eluded him until now. And to do so without counseling or support.
04-30-2018 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BDHarrison
There is enough there that police should certainly check it out and question him. It is within the range of possibilities that additional statements he may have made are what led to his arrest.

He doesn't have to actually intend to hurt anyone. If he wrote that with the intention of making people be alarmed that he might cause violence, then he could be guilty of making a terroristic threat.
The blog post on it's own is disturbing but not illegal (in most places). He basically says he wishes people are dead. He doesn't hint to anyone or calls names, he doesn't state a certain place or time and he doesn't even state that he intents to do it.

The facebook post is more disturbing. If he posts "before I commit suicide" and then links it to his fantasy, he shows intent. I'd certainly hope police investigate it but proper course of action is not holding him, it's forwarding him to mental help. Depending on his history one could argue he should be forced to, but jail is just not a solution.
04-30-2018 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
Listen, it's about his brain learning that if I say I will commit violence I go to jail therefore if I commit violence even worse things will happen to me. Allowing him to make the statements he made, with no repercussions is what leads people like him to actually go out and commit the crimes.
You think jail is a deterrent to someone who plans a murder-suicide? You serious?
04-30-2018 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
"I wish" is not the same as "I am going to". By the way reporting fake bomb threats is illegal.

Did not see the facebook post by the way, solely judging on that part.
Let's test this theory. Give the White House a call and tell them:

"Hi, my name is Kelvis and I really wish to kill the President of the United States. I'm not going to, of course! Haha. I would never do that. That's just crazy. But I kinda want to sneak onto the South Lawn with my sniper rifle and fire some rounds into the Oval Office. I think I'll just go bowling tonight instead. How's your day going?"

Report back and tell us how it goes.
04-30-2018 , 06:05 PM
He certainly seems to fit the profile of people who commit mass violence.

First off, he is male. Second, he appears to be sexually frustrated. Third, he has strongly held opinions and grievances that give him a reason to act. Fourth, he has a history of disturbing statements.

His contention that politically correct liberals have trained women to prefer non-white males so that he can't get laid is the sort of eye-raising belief that should have him watched. He also has Obama-is-a-Muslim, what-about-Benghazi opinions that suggest he could be a dangerous person.
04-30-2018 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
Let's test this theory. Give the White House a call and tell them:

"I really wish to kill the President of the United States. I'm not going to, of course! Haha. I would never do that. That's just crazy. But I kinda want to sneak onto the South Lawn with my sniper rifle and fire some rounds into the Oval Office. I think I'll just go bowling tonight instead. How's your day going?"

Report back and tell us how it goes.
You don't see the difference between those statements? A threat has to be specific for it to be believable.

Compare "I wish people are dead" versus "I really wish to kill the President of the United States. I'm not going to, of course! Haha. I would never do that. That's just crazy. But I kinda want to sneak onto the South Lawn with my sniper rifle and fire some rounds into the Oval Office. I think I'll just go bowling tonight instead. How's your day going?"

He specified..... nothing. You specified:

1) victim
2) place
3) time
4) method

This just insults my intelligence.
04-30-2018 , 06:07 PM
Okay, well that's not what you said before. You're raising new reasons as to why it's okay for Tony to publicly fantasize about committing mass murder.

You can try the same exercise without all the detail. Just tell the nice people at the White House that you would love to kill lots of people and get your name in the newspaper, without going into any specifics. Feel free to clarify that you're not stating any intent to actually do it, just that you really enjoy the idea of it.

Last edited by SrslySirius; 04-30-2018 at 06:14 PM.
04-30-2018 , 06:07 PM
wowzas. This isn't that shocking tho, I remeber reading a decent amount of post from him a few months ago -- the guy is seriously paranoid/delusional.
04-30-2018 , 06:19 PM
This was the last time I read his blog. Back in Nov, I heard he got booted from Golden Gate so I went to his blog and saw this.

"i lost 2 spots of $235, with a double, then 2 spots of $450. i was asked by 2 new guys (who didnt see the losses) how i was doing and if i minded them sitting and i told them exactly what i was thinking. dont ask if u dont wish to know. i told them i could care less if the dealer and his mother died in a serious car accident and i hoped they went broke, became homeless and lost everything they had because if it happened to me it should to them too. i told them how i felt about them hiring dealers who werent white and are foreignors and how it should be illegal cause its racist, because u shouldnt have to be asian to get hired. unfair to blacks, whites, etc and all non-asian peoples. i told them how my main goal was to make sure no one had a good time unless i was too, and how people should be executed for people watching and how rude it is, and especially if theyre just out to have a good time not caring how this would effect the others who take the game seriously. i told them how this casino should be burned to the ground and how i prayed it took place soon."

http://sevencard2003.blogspot.com/20...g-no-more.html
04-30-2018 , 06:20 PM
It doesn't really matter the post is illegal or not - there's contemplation of suicide and possibly of doing harm to others. Seems like a no-brainer to report and let the experts decide what the best course of action is.
04-30-2018 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
Okay, well that's not what you said before. You're raising new reasons as to why it's okay for Tony to publicly fantasize about committing mass murder.

You can try the same exercise without all the detail. Just tell the nice people at the White House that you would love to kill lots of people and get your name in the newspaper, without going into any specifics. Feel free to clarify that you're not stating any intent to actually do it, just that you really enjoy the idea of it.
You see by directing this you've specified the reader. This is a piece of text that is online that you don't have to read. You can go there if you want, and if you don't you'll never get to know.

By going out of my way to deliver someone this message that's already 10 times worse.

But whatever, if you don't see this then we just agree to disagree, I think we both agree reporting it is totally the right thing to do and police should certainly do something with it.
04-30-2018 , 06:57 PM
I am not excusing TBC's behavior and it was the right thing to call local authorities. I do believe TBC has a good heart demonstrated by how responsive and kind he was always been to my tweets on poker and gambling advice. I hope he gets the help he needs without any serious charges.
04-30-2018 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cheesefist
Pretty optimistic to expect a mentally ill unstable person to make a rational assessment of his worsened situation and conclude that he has to make life changes and stick to them. Skills which have eluded him until now. And to do so without counseling or support.
he needs to be locked up and not for his well being but for the safety of the public. its optimistic to think that someone with his history is going to change, you can't cure crazy. honestly after making a statement like that i wouldn't care if they locked him up for life.

mentally ill and unstable does not mean irrational. he needs to face consequences or things will escalate.
04-30-2018 , 07:25 PM
Tony Bigcharles has to be the best Mafia name ever.
04-30-2018 , 08:06 PM
It was a good time to get his ass off the street. He seems like he was about to snap. Coulda been messy.
04-30-2018 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
Let's test this theory. Give the White House a call and tell them:

"Hi, my name is Kelvis and I really wish to kill the President of the United States. I'm not going to, of course! Haha. I would never do that. That's just crazy. But I kinda want to sneak onto the South Lawn with my sniper rifle and fire some rounds into the Oval Office. I think I'll just go bowling tonight instead. How's your day going?"

Report back and tell us how it goes.
Threatening to kill the President is actually a specific federal crime that is categorically different than threats to any other person, which for the most part would be handled by the state.

      
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