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10-25-2016 , 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by BeholdaPaleHorse
I can't access this for some reason can someone explain what it is????
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10-25-2016 , 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by PasswordGotHacked
I can't access this for some reason can someone explain what it is????
Sounds legit.
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10-25-2016 , 10:09 AM
lol
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10-25-2016 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PasswordGotHacked
I can't access this for some reason can someone explain what it is????
I imagine you've seen it before. It's the NBC HU thing where Hellmuth says to Dwan something like "We'll see if you're even around in 5 years".

He was right if "around" means "on TV".
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10-26-2016 , 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DeepFryer
That might be the average, but Kasparov achieved his peak ELO rating at age 36 & Karpov's came at 43. There have been a few world champions who held the title into their 50's.

I'd say Dwan was unstable to begin with & stress had a lot to do with his downfall. Even at his peak he would make unhealthy decisions like depriving himself of sleep.
Peak rating is a bad way to measure chess peaks due to rating inflation.
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10-26-2016 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by PraguePoker
It was hubris that destroyed Tom Dwan. His story is a classic Greek tragedy.

It was his one-sided PLO bet against all takers that alerted the Gods it was time to teach the mortal Tom Dwan a lesson in humility.
Hubris doesn't sound very Chinese Businessman-ish
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10-26-2016 , 06:11 PM
re: GM's peaking at age 31 and comparison to poker. Not sure where the info is from (would be interested to see analysis), but if it is true, it's definitely a "soft" peak. Not as if chess skills start deteriorating rapidly thereafter.

Elderly GM's are usually a bit weaker than in their youth, but not considerably so. Korchnoi, for instance, who was a WC contender in his 40's, was maybe 150 pts off his peak in his 80's and in declining health.
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10-27-2016 , 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by schundler
Elderly GM's are usually a bit weaker than in their youth, but not considerably so. Korchnoi, for instance, who was a WC contender in his 40's, was maybe 150 pts off his peak in his 80's and in declining health.
Well he played the final match as challenger against the reigning champion at the ages of 47 and 50, but also wikipedia says he was in the candidates tournament (i.e. final 8 playing down to the one challenger) in 1962, 1968, 1971, 1974, 1977, 1980, 1983, 1985, 1988 and 1991 - and he was born in 1931 - so as you say, it's not like soccer where anyone in the top 8 outfield players in the world will always be between 19 and 35.
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11-03-2016 , 08:51 AM
In Manila now playing the Triton Super High Rollers Series - Out of the opening event without making the money: http://somuchpoker.com/tom-dwan-in-2...roller-series/
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11-03-2016 , 09:21 AM
Lol at comparation between poker and chess. Chess is a young man game. Poker if you are not a degent you can be at the top for many years at the live games.

Last edited by White Rook; 11-03-2016 at 09:27 AM.
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11-03-2016 , 12:10 PM
What I'm hearing doesn't make sense. If the reason why he hasn't been public lately is because of "family issues", as was recently reported, then why the extended stay in SE Asia? You'd think he'd want to be closer to home(east coast USA?) if there were family problems. This isn't true obviously...it's just a line to get people to stop asking questions.

Also, if he was home, it boggles the mind why he didn't show up at this years WSOP. WSOP, the mecca of poker, wtf?

The only explanation that makes sense is that he is broke and being staked. If he was robusto, surely he would come to the US at least for the WSOP?

Also, he doesn't look like a happy guy in those recent pictures. He looks like a guy trying to dig himself out of a hole.
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11-04-2016 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Adjusted
What I'm hearing doesn't make sense. If the reason why he hasn't been public lately is because of "family issues", as was recently reported, then why the extended stay in SE Asia? You'd think he'd want to be closer to home(east coast USA?) if there were family problems. This isn't true obviously...it's just a line to get people to stop asking questions.

Also, if he was home, it boggles the mind why he didn't show up at this years WSOP. WSOP, the mecca of poker, wtf?

The only explanation that makes sense is that he is broke and being staked. If he was robusto, surely he would come to the US at least for the WSOP?

Also, he doesn't look like a happy guy in those recent pictures. He looks like a guy trying to dig himself out of a hole.
He looks the same to me. Crazy he's been playing the highest limits 6 yrs straight. What a life.
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11-05-2016 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Kaiwall
In Manila now playing the Triton Super High Rollers Series - Out of the opening event without making the money: http://somuchpoker.com/tom-dwan-in-2...roller-series/
Yes he is at Manila. I found him here on youtube too.
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11-05-2016 , 02:22 AM
Is Manila safe for gringos with a lot of cash?
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11-05-2016 , 03:46 AM
Good to see Tom safe and back in action!
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11-05-2016 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Adjusted
What I'm hearing doesn't make sense. If the reason why he hasn't been public lately is because of "family issues", as was recently reported, then why the extended stay in SE Asia? You'd think he'd want to be closer to home(east coast USA?) if there were family problems. This isn't true obviously...it's just a line to get people to stop asking questions.

Also, if he was home, it boggles the mind why he didn't show up at this years WSOP. WSOP, the mecca of poker, wtf?

The only explanation that makes sense is that he is broke and being staked. If he was robusto, surely he would come to the US at least for the WSOP?

Also, he doesn't look like a happy guy in those recent pictures. He looks like a guy trying to dig himself out of a hole.
Sadly the WSOP is no longer important to the elite of the elite. For the very best in the world, the potential earnings at that event is insignificant, a waste of time even, compared to what they make elsewhere.
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11-07-2016 , 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by spaceman
Sadly the WSOP is no longer important to the elite of the elite. For the very best in the world, the potential earnings at that event is insignificant, a waste of time even, compared to what they make elsewhere.
Exactly. He obviously made some great contacts in those games, it's like being able to get into some amazing 5/10 home game or some average 1/2 casino games, would be a no brainer.

It also explains why him JM have cooled or, or seemed to. My guess would be he has also been helping JM get into some great games.

He's clearly not broke, a degen yes, broke, no.
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11-07-2016 , 01:13 PM
https://www.facebook.com/AllInAsia88...type=3&theater

Pokertube just shared this on FB, is it an old pic?
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11-08-2016 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Adjusted
What I'm hearing doesn't make sense. If the reason why he hasn't been public lately is because of "family issues", as was recently reported, then why the extended stay in SE Asia? You'd think he'd want to be closer to home(east coast USA?) if there were family problems. This isn't true obviously...it's just a line to get people to stop asking questions.

Also, if he was home, it boggles the mind why he didn't show up at this years WSOP. WSOP, the mecca of poker, wtf?

The only explanation that makes sense is that he is broke and being staked. If he was robusto, surely he would come to the US at least for the WSOP?

Also, he doesn't look like a happy guy in those recent pictures. He looks like a guy trying to dig himself out of a hole.

His dad was ill and then died, could that have been his family issue? im sure he has other issues with trincher stuff and whatever else he might be into
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11-08-2016 , 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
https://www.facebook.com/AllInAsia88...type=3&theater

Pokertube just shared this on FB, is it an old pic?
Yeah, this is like 2 years old
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11-08-2016 , 07:13 PM
Pic from January but damn man get some sleep Tom.

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11-09-2016 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Birchinio

It also explains why him JM have cooled or, or seemed to. My guess would be he has also been helping JM get into some great games.

He's clearly not broke, a degen yes, broke, no.
This is probably true, how else can you explain him and Cates being friendly with each other? Also, if he's studying even half as much as the online guys are, he's probably destroying their win rates in those Asia games.
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11-09-2016 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by metza


Add in bot rings, MA, rakeback cuts and it seems you'd have to be insane to try to become a poker pro in 2016.
If you could, what is MA?
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