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05-01-2025 , 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by PugDolk
I wouldn't be so quick just to take the authorities at their word and assume Tom Dwan has significant mental problems that suddenly materialized overnight. He's 38 years old, which is about a decade beyond the usual onset of schizophrenia symptoms or similar. I'd definitely be concerned about the possibility that A) he was actually drugged at a game by people wanting to try to get his money and has been behaving erratically because of that, something like giving him drugged water or B) people around him are trying to force him into a conservatorship or something so that they can get control of his money, and also possibly drugging him to pull that off.

High roller in his late 30s suddenly starts acting crazy, my first thought actually would be that someone slipped something in his drink not a mental breakdown from a predisposition to mental illness. 5/5 player in his mid 20s starts acting crazy, I'd think it was the second, but not in Dwan's case.
You're right that the typical onset of schizophrenia is earlier, but people without schizophrenia can get psychosis too...
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05-01-2025 , 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by K2AA72
You're right that the typical onset of schizophrenia is earlier, but people without schizophrenia can get psychosis too...
Although the guy you quoted is generally correct regarding the timeline for schizophrenia, late-onset schizophrenia is a thing, and a common symptom is extreme paranoia.

I dunno what drug someone could’ve slipped him (and for what purpose) that would result in his behavior, and as for the conservatorship theory, that’s just pure speculation based on…what?

Does he even have money? He seemingly had trouble paying Jensen, and although Jmo is a troll who exaggerates, he’s said Tom’s in debt.

Far more likely he either stopped taking meds, or has late onset psychological issues
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05-01-2025 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by K2AA72
You're right that the typical onset of schizophrenia is earlier, but people without schizophrenia can get psychosis too...
Anyone at any age can get induced psychotic breaks from prolonged lack of sleep and/or drug use. Not shocking that someone with Dwan's lifestyle is in this situation.
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05-01-2025 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MagRailPro
Regarding all the ideas that the community gives here, I want to say this:

Please be careful with using fighting terms like (conspiracy/conspiracy theory etc.), because using these often highlights the limited perspective
that the user might have due to being less informed about a certain topic that might go over his head.

Using these terms often highlight a certain amount of ignorance and lack of depth, when being wrong.
Lack of information can lead to extremely subjective opinions that turn into a mess when expressing that opinion.
This can be very harmful to others.

Also keep in mind that this term is used inflationary to discredit unwanted opinions.
In fact: It was invented by the CIA during the Kennedy assassination for exactly that purpose.
That is a fact and can be researched, because it is documented by the CIA.
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The **** are you talking about? The word conspiracy was invented by the CIA? Lol, blatant misinformation.

How about posters be careful about speculating about Tom and his mental state instead. That **** causes real harm.

The poker news reporter had it right. He is in the best place he could be right now. How about we show Tom some love and support right now? If you aren't capable of that, STFU and leave him alone.
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05-01-2025 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by skiier04
How about posters be careful about speculating about Tom and his mental state instead. That **** causes real harm.

The poker news reporter had it right. He is in the best place he could be right now. How about we show Tom some love and support right now? If you aren't capable of that, STFU and leave him alone.
Hard agree with the above. This forum has an abysmal track record regarding how it addresses issues related to mental health. Do better. Let him recover in peace.
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05-01-2025 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by K2AA72
You're right that the typical onset of schizophrenia is earlier, but people without schizophrenia can get psychosis too...
Stimulant-induced paranoid psychosis is a common side effect of the long-term use of amphetamines and the like. It's another of many possible problems he may be experiencing. And Dwan has long looked like a candidate for being someone burning the candle at both ends.
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05-01-2025 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by namisgr11
Stimulant-induced paranoid psychosis is a common side effect of the long-term use of amphetamines and the like. It's another of many possible problems he may be experiencing. And Dwan has long looked like a candidate for being someone burning the candle at both ends.
Whatever advance Molly's Game could have received for spilling all the details, Dwan could make way more. And certainly more than Megan Markel. He's rubbed shoulders with titans of industry, gangsters across the globe, politicians, you name it and comes across as genuinely interested in the world, and has seen (and able to interpret) many of the craziest stories. But such knowledge is dangerous.

I don't doubt that he could get a meeting with Trump through David Sachs or with Putin through some oligarch. Not many Fortune 500 CEO's can do that.
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05-01-2025 , 02:39 PM
So after tweeting nonstop, he’s just leaving us on “Feeling a little better, sorry guys” or whatever?
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05-01-2025 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by auralex14
Although the guy you quoted is generally correct regarding the timeline for schizophrenia, late-onset schizophrenia is a thing, and a common symptom is extreme paranoia.
I dunno what drug someone could’ve slipped him (and for what purpose) that would result in his behavior, and as for the conservatorship theory, that’s just pure speculation based on…what?
There's a lot of drugs you could dose someone with that would make them start acting crazy. Psychedelic amphetamines like John McAfee used to take for one. A lot of them are quite long lasting (days). If I was a criminal looking to drug someone and get them to give me access to their bank accounts, or just make them out of it enough that I could steal a phone or bitcoin wallet or whatever off of them, that wouldn't be a bad place to start.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopolamine#Use_in_crime
This drug is often used by criminal gangs looking to bank drain someone.

Dwan is the kind of guy who could have no money and then the next day have a lot of money. Erick Lindgren last week had no money and then a couple days ago had like a million and a half dollars. If you have $50,000 on you that's more than enough for criminals to target you. I know people that've been robbed for less leaving the LA casinos.

I got roofied once myself. It was meant for a girl I was at the bar with. We decided we liked each other's drinks more so we switched once they got brought to us. I drank about half of it and started feeling EXTREMELY drunk, fell out of my chair. I didn't lose consciousness but it was very obvious the drink was drugged. We left the bar quickly and took a taxi home and I slept for like 12 hours once I got inside and on the couch.

Just saying that, if a guy who frequently has big money on him starts acting crazy and says someone put something in his drink, my first thought would be "somebody put something in his drink" not "sudden onset of severe mental illness in a late 30s guy who has never shown symptoms of it before."
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05-01-2025 , 03:17 PM
Dwan has shown many signs of mental illness the last 5 years.

He tried to regain the spotlight again as some sort of enlightened grifter during COVID. Many people were speculating he was off his mind on drugs but my assumption is more along the lines of the stresses of his lifestyle have broken his brain.

If the stories are even half true hes been broke-rich bouncing from sponsor to sponsor while owing 10s of millions for over a decade now. Its not a sustainable lifestyle for normal brains.
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05-01-2025 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by coordi
Dwan has shown many signs of mental illness the last 5 years.
Stress and mental illness are different things.
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05-01-2025 , 03:28 PM
Stress causes all sorts of illnesses, mental and physical
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05-01-2025 , 03:46 PM
Does anyone know how this episode is going to effect his heads-up challenge with Jungleman? Will it cause further delays, because that would suck.
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05-01-2025 , 03:48 PM
It can be very difficult for someone who has been successful to accept that the person who has been steering the wheel is now the problem and must move to the passenger seat.
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05-01-2025 , 06:50 PM
On a recent cash game stream JRB mentioned years ago at Aria there were Sky high cash games between "Dwan and Bobby Baldwin". Did Dwan win in those games?
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05-01-2025 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PugDolk
PJust saying that, if a guy who frequently has big money on him starts acting crazy and says someone put something in his drink, my first thought would be "somebody put something in his drink" not "sudden onset of severe mental illness in a late 30s guy who has never shown symptoms of it before."
That’s certainly an opinion, and you’re entitled to it, but so are flat-earthers.

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Dwan has shown many signs of mental illness the last 5 years.

He tried to regain the spotlight again as some sort of enlightened grifter during COVID. Many people were speculating he was off his mind on drugs but my assumption is more along the lines of the stresses of his lifestyle have broken his brain.

If the stories are even half true hes been broke-rich bouncing from sponsor to sponsor while owing 10s of millions for over a decade now. Its not a sustainable lifestyle for normal brains.
I think it’s a combination of lifestyle and a genetic predisposition. Something triggered this breakdown, and it wasn’t someone slipping him a Mickey or Devil’s Breath (lol) on an airplane.

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Hard agree with the above. This forum has an abysmal track record regarding how it addresses issues related to mental health. Do better. Let him recover in peace.
He’s a public poker figure and this is News, Views, and Gossip..what do you expect?
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05-01-2025 , 07:25 PM
I think what happened is he goes on these meth binges then sleeps it off during his long flights. Looks like he was on a flight to london but maybe this time he wasn't able to sleep it off. Or maybe he was going to sleep on flight to hustler but london authories flagged him.
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05-01-2025 , 07:29 PM
lol

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05-01-2025 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Rmbxr9
So after tweeting nonstop, he’s just leaving us on “Feeling a little better, sorry guys” or whatever?
Obviously someone else typed that in and then took the phone
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05-01-2025 , 09:53 PM
Dwan is a Chinese mafia muppet. He's a toy. Dance white boy, dance.
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05-01-2025 , 09:56 PM
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lol

Is Jason Mo, legit? Like is there documented proof he's successful in life, e.g. married, kids going to private schools, went to a good college, doesn't have a mortgage at his age, vacation home, or whatever benchmark someone wants to use? Maybe he can back up his schtick, without some ridiculous bet-challenge. I have no idea. I'm all for the massive in your face balls out troll, a la Elon, but it needs to be backed up with documented success.

I almost used his service to get discounted business class tickets once, and it seemed like he violated terms of FF miles to buy tickets from other people's accounts who would sell.

Not unexpected considering he's laser focused on calling out others. Pots generally call kettles.

Huge Tom fan, though.

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05-01-2025 , 10:17 PM
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Is Jason Mo, legit?
****y cakes makes you wonder
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05-01-2025 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by auralex14
That post was from March, 2024, after the Jensen debacle.

This meltdown has been predictable to anyone who’s come across any of Tom’s interviews, or seen his tweets (especially recently, not past 3 days, but post election).

Given the number of people who have reached out to him and spoken up about his current situation, I’m hopeful that he’ll have a better shot than most who suffer from whatever psychological disorder he’s got—-as if he’s just tweeking all day and night, that’s actually the best case scenario.

It’d be far worse if he had schizophrenia or bipolar disorder
Going back, finding, and then quoting your own post from 14 months ago to prove that you were right all along about the mental health of someone you don't know has to be the most love-the-smell-of-your-own-fart **** in the history of this entire website.

You writing it and hitting post:

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05-01-2025 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
Going back, finding, and then quoting your own post from 14 months ago to prove that you were right all along about the mental health of someone you don't know has to be the most love-the-smell-of-your-own-fart **** in the history of this entire website.

You writing it and hitting post:

Wait…lemme find one from you that stands out to me…one sec
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05-02-2025 , 12:00 AM
Oh yes, here it is. After Gman’s compelling ‘report’ on his proof of the HCL cheating scam:



Let it go Gazzy. Sorry I made you look stupid 3 years ago, but me pointing out Tom’s shown signs of delusion for awhile is kinda relevant given half the ppl seem to think he got the Devil’s Dandruff on an airplane.

Some commonalities between threads now that I think about it…

Considering the enormous volume of my posts in this thread (and this site in the past year) I was lucky to have found it so quickly. But it’s just a credit to my ability to ‘sniff’ out the truth….
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