Eastgate should have folded pre.

in barry's analysis of the hand he said eastgate had a standard call with any 2

think he also said he knew eastgate had a 2 on the flop

He does have a compulsory call with any deuce here. The way the hand plays out, Dwan almost never has him beat imo. He could be worried about Greenstein calling behind otf, which is somewhat reasonable (although Greenstein has very few preflop combos that beat him). Still don't think he should fold turn though.

First off, Dwan cold called an open from UTG+1, so his only 2 is A2s and maybe K2s. He would likely 3bet 1010 some of the time, so he has very few combos that have Eastgate beat.

More importantly (imo), is why would Dwan raise 10 2 2 rainbow with a full house or A2? It's extremely difficult to balance (although taking a hand like j10 or q10 is a pretty good way to do it), and from a practical standpoint there's not a single turn in the deck that's bad for your hand. He also has like 8 players left to act after him, so calling allows hands with very little equity to enter the pot or bluff.

Obviously these are nosebleed stakes and I think that was a big part of why Eastgate folded.

Afterward Eastgate said that he planned to call every street against Dwan. However, Barry’s flop call changed everything. There are not a lot of hands in Barry’s range that he beats, as it’s safe to assume a solid player like Barry isn’t getting his chips in on the flop with a hand as weak as 2 pair against a raise and an out-of-position cold caller of a flop raise.

I think Eastgate’s logic is sound. He is crushed by Barry’s range in this spot.

It does change things, but if Barry is overcalling eastgate with any over pair that's 24 combos. There's only 4 possible 1010 combos and only 1 combination of A2s that Barry could have. I think Barry's range will realistically contain most, if not all overpairs as well as the 5 combinations that have Eastgate beat

That being said, Barry probably shouldn't be over calling Eastgate's flat with every overpair (even if in practice he is), so if Eastgate expects Barry to play very tight/optimally then I understand his fold. However, from what I've seen from these games, people were not playing very tight and definitely nowhere near optimally, and they were calling Dwan down much lighter than anyone else.

Guy guys guys....

This is not a strat thread. This is a Tom Dwan sightings/speculation/appreciation thread.

Lets get things back on track:

There is no chance Barry is calling with JJ-KK. How could he possibly justify such a loose call against Eastgate’s range? He is a solid player. AA is not terrible since it blocks A2, but I think Barry finds a fold with AA sometimes. Barry’s range from Eastgate’s perspective is 3 combos of TT, 1 combo of A2s, and <6 combos of AA. But it’s not just Peter’s equity against this range that matters, it’s also his equity against Barry’s all-in range against Peter’s range, which excludes AA. Against that range Peter is crushed. On top of that, if he is lucky enough to be against the bottom of Barry’s range, he also needs to luck out by dodging the top of Tom’s range. Calling the turn is surely a losing play.

Eastgates biggest mistake was buying in 500k deep.

Best is the 88 J10 hand against Laak. Tom bets small on river to give Laak like 6-1 LUL.

There are so many good Dwan hands from TV he really was the best.

Not really, at the ridic nosebleed stakes people are going to respect his raises more.

How often the play works obviously isn't the impressive part.

Eastgate made the mistake of buying in so deep out of his comfort zone against these pros, as did Gold and other main event champs I've seen.

However on a recent announcement for the Scott Blumstein week on Live at the Bike!, sounded like he's playing all but the 25/50/100 Friday game (but will be commentating on it). Seems like Scott might be a bit more self-aware about his cash game/poker abilities?

That's the great thing about durrr though, I used to use the pocketfives forum back in the days when this show was on and it would always be buzzing the next day with people talking strat, he got people excited about poker!

lol at that hand though, is it possible to play ak worse than that?

You were right, that was awesome Here it is for anyone looking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7M2__J4c1s

^^ that hand truly is great. funny af

"you just called 15...you were like yup ok 15.."

My fave hand was still the Durrr vs Ivey bluff with 98suited

https://youtu.be/fSqkhN9Rqk0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHgquInNM14

no deal!

Man that was brutal

Durrr really got me psyched to play poker back in the day

Mahhhhh uhhhhhyaaa I wanna mahhhhhh run it once uhhhhhhhmehhhh...
If you wanna take a couple hundred back
- No

But do people think dwan would get destroyed online today? What is it ablut his play that wouldn't work today?

Is it because now a lot more players are capable of pulling sick bluffs? That dwan can't handle this?

Dwan would probably still crush midstakes if he tightened his pre flop game up. I'm sure with study he could be competitive at the high stakes as well. People call down way lighter than they used to, so that takes away his ability to bluff profitably despite questionable pre flop play

The question is, why would he do that when he's rolled for soft, high stakes live games where his edge is way bigger?

I remember Barry Greenstein saying that in order to get on TV there was a certain pressure to make plays. Also, Kaplan used to constantly reiterate that nobody likes to get bluffed or seemingly outplayed on TV, & he was right. Although he undoubtedly both ran & played well, Dwan also did a good job of taking advantage of this. It's not like I'm talking from experience, but its reasonable to think that playing on TV in front of a big audience isnt the same as playing the same stakes Online, no matter how much people wanna pretend it is.

Someone like Doyle Brunson seemed unbothered by any of that for obvious reasons, just played very tight, & won most times.

Games involving Dwan were incredibly entertaining - & TV is supposed to be entertainment. The game completely changed when he sat down. I laugh when people say they enjoy watching the likes Fedor Holz. You & your 2 poker friends might enjoy watching him take 2 minutes on every decision & move like an expressionless slow motion robot, but the general public wouldn't watch it if u paid them

I think Dwan has mentioned he looks at factors outside the game as well. For instance in that hand with Barry, how many bullets did Barry have? maybe dwan knew Barry had only one bullet in addition to his AA being face up. Dwan always exploited each player's weakness so well.

No way someone in this universe said they enjoy watching Fedor Holz

lol subbed