What did he do?

Ike/Jungle - have you heard the same rumours or know first hand about this insane debt? There's no other explanation, he's stuck huge and this isn't the priority.

Why do you keep repeating this without any substantiation?

Its a parrot!!

lol

Thanks a lot for coming into this thread. Even if you are no longer an arbitrator, it's nice that at least someone involved in this whole situation has an actively great reputation in the community as someone fair and honest. Perhaps that is why Tom was so insistent on you being a part of it in the first place so it's sad to see how it played out since.

Do you know Tom's 'big issue with FTP'? Can you elaborate on it? If you do know but somehow can't say more, can you at least explain whether or not you think it is/was a valid reason to not continue playing the challenge?

Couldn't they easily continue it on another site if they wanted to and just scale up the money playing significantly lower stakes if the issue is personal with the site?

What has been your sense of how Tom is acting and what his motivations are in the last year regarding the challenge? Do you feel he is even making the tiniest good faith effort to get this situation to an adequate and proper resolution or is he seemingly just buying endless time and always has something important come up that keeps him from addressing it?

Why do you think he is remaining completely silent on the very public challenge he started? An update and a sincere explanation from him would go a long way with the community so it's disturbing he can't even find 30 minutes to do this.

Finally, and just out of curiosity, if you were to arbitrate a settlement now if Tom said he didn't want to play anymore, would you be likely to rule that tom owes more than then 1.5 million because he is likely a dog in playing out the remaining hands (which I believe is the requirement) or do you think the appropriate settlement would be < 1.5 million?

As I said earlier, I was so appreciative of how Tom acted during the post BF FTP mess. He came off as having great integrity and was someone the community could trust. Seeing it get to this point just sucks.

Ike, would you ever deal with durrr on a financial basis again? Do you trust him?

Jungle would have to be insane/moron to pay Dwan a single dollar for anything until the outstanding bet is paid/resolved.

The principle in Law is called "Set Off" but in the regular world it is called "Are you seriously asking me to pay you X dollars when you owe me X+1MIL? GTFO!"

Who told you Ivey had vouched?

It's amusing to see this go on and on. Tom is LHAO.
Plain and simple.
Tom is broke now and not paying now. Not for any deep seeded reason which you have all evaluated to death.
He blew his money on gambling and the high life. Don't you think he regrets the many private jets to Europe? Or 30 k dinners at eboli in Spain or renting yacts,villas,islands or regrets his huge ridiculous entourage he was raining money on. Or Barbie gf 1 whom he purchased condos for or ever getting over his head with Illya trincer mega bookie chasing,chasing,chasing. Or what about his DOA problem concerning wire fraud and other alligations that he's being investigated for right now.
Toms not paying because he's not paying and he has no outlet to generate money.
His games are gone and he sucks at mixed games so he can't grind. He got killed in Bobbys room on several occasions and to top it off has no person willing to back him.
It makes me sad to see this. He was warned by other veteran HS players that to brace himself for this happening. He chose to laugh it off and his ego prevailed.

Well atleast he had fun to that point

cards will make you ego will break you. just ask mike. he'll tell you.

My guess is that Kevin phawp didn't have health insurance when he got sick and his high stakes buddies (Tom and raptor) picked up a massive portion of the costs.

it's a sad state of affairs for mr.dwan

This maybe true. At one time he was throwing money at everyone being the big shot.

oh i hadn't even yet read the supposed drama-bomb from privatetroll when i poasted that, lol

Have you also heard the rumours (or perhaps have 1st hand knowledge) of what I've posted above?

What he was doesn't matter anymore, what he is now is not the most important thing, but what he will become means everything.

And about your comment, that would happen to 8 or 9 guys out of 10 that come in that much money so fast i think.

No simply because this has become stupid. The fact that fanboys believe that this is a big issue in Toms life and the root of all his problems. And they would do Tom is a scammer post only makes them look very amautuer. Please ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGFS5is4lD0

This comes close to what i think of the whole story whatever is true[just came past this one and thought it was kind off appropriate to this situation, because whatever the reason i don't think that tom is a bad,scummy guy, but hey time will tell right?]

Just like they say about blues it can only be played right by "a good man feeling bad"

So you agree he's not a dishonest scammer simply a broke sucker?

Whether or not he is a scammer is debatable, I'd say not exactly or mostly not. I don't think his intention was ever to scam anyone with the durrrr challenge.

That said he is certainly being dishonest with jungle in how he handles this situation. Even if he is broke, delaying the challenge inevitably with no set plan to continue or finish while pretending he has every intention to do so is def dishonest.

Seems like mostly though durrrr is being dishonest with himself that he bit off more than he could chew with the whole challenge and doesn't want to admit it to himself....otherwise he would just work out a payment plan and buy out at this point. Considering how understanding jungle has been of the current situation it def seems like that would have been his best course of action...however that would have been a very ego crushing decision for him to make.

Jungle is most likely allegedly working something out with Dwans backers. A avenue he did not want to pursue but had too. Just my opinion though. Not fact.

We were all interested in ur thoughts, thanks !

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sick reading comprehension. i didn't say that. keep trying with the strawman fallacies tho.