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Old 05-10-2004, 01:29 PM   #26
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That was inspiring.
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Old 05-10-2004, 02:38 PM   #27
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Congrats

I can't help asking though: do you enjoy it? And do you plan to do this for a long time to come?

P.S. Thank you for helping out my game over the last couple of years.
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Old 05-10-2004, 02:42 PM   #28
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That's one hell of a story, Dynasty. You definately have the heart and the discipline to be a successful gambler. I'm sorry that we didn't meet up this trip, but all the best to you, and I'll see you on my next trip to Sin City.
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Old 05-10-2004, 03:29 PM   #29
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I think its safe to say that someone would be hard pressed to find two more different people than Bryan and myself. I think we have both benefitted because of it. No doubt that Bryan is an acquired taste, but I'm very glad we became friends.
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Old 05-10-2004, 03:42 PM   #30
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If one of you were stupid you'd be more different.

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Old 05-10-2004, 05:15 PM   #31
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"If one of you were stupid you'd be more different."

between if and one add *only* and youve got it!
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Old 05-10-2004, 05:46 PM   #32
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Thank you for sharing this story. Talk about brass balls.

I would not be surprised if you aren't playing poker in 5 years. You will have found another mountain to climb.
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Old 05-10-2004, 06:22 PM   #33
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Very nice read.

I find it interesting that you can remember all those dates and stuff. Or you just keep a diary.
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Old 05-10-2004, 06:29 PM   #34
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Definitely the best post I've ever read. Also one of the better stories I've read.
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Old 05-10-2004, 06:41 PM   #35
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Great story. The key, as you put it, is discipline, and you apparently had that from the start. Hell, I can't think of very many people that 5 years out of college would've had enough saved up to bankroll the move.
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Old 05-10-2004, 06:46 PM   #36
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What a great story! Many thanks to everyone at 2+2!
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Old 05-10-2004, 06:51 PM   #37
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Thanks for the post. I thought you were much more experienced in poker than you are (years wise - hands wise you're probably quite experienced ). I've always thought your analysis of hands played was excellent. I remember emailing you some time ago about some EV calcs you did that I was impressed with. I find that kind of analysis very valuable and very rare. Hope you continue to enjoy playing. I know you'll like the money.
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Old 05-10-2004, 06:53 PM   #38
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Re: Three Years in Las Vegas

I'm still fairly new to the world of 2+2, but have often wondered about who some of the carpal tunnels and pooh bahs that post here are, and how they worked up to the games they play in. Thanks Dynasty for sharing your story. If anything, many of us can live vicariously through your tales, as most wouldn't have the guts to make a move like you did.

Congrats on your successes!

And you apparently did all of this without a pattern map! Wow!
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Old 05-10-2004, 07:26 PM   #39
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Great story man! Looks like you pulled into town the same week as me, with the same ideas, and a lot more success. but I'll be back.

I hope you answer the questions about how long you plan on doing this.
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Old 05-10-2004, 08:31 PM   #40
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And do you plan to do this for a long time to come?

Hey, he's just finished his three year thinkin'-it-over period. Let him decide whether to go pro or not first.
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Old 05-10-2004, 08:53 PM   #41
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Contrast Dynasty\'s Story To This One

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Obviously, Negreanu, Ivey, Juanda, & Cunningham are far out on the right side of the bell curve, as far as starting out primarily as tourney pros. And they all also play live; in fact DN & PI now mostly play live, and JJ & AC are 'semi-retired' from poker, supposedly.

Ted Forrest played mid-limit before winning the three bracelets in '93, then used the money to move up(UP!). Howard Lederer has written extensively about focusing more on tourneys now, which has worked out nicely for him. Of course, he's a pretty good player to begin with.

As for TJ, Hellmuth, Men, Scotty, Miami John, the few, the proud, I guess. Look what happened to Huck. Daniel recently wrote (my paraphrase)that Chris Ferguson was the only self-financed, successful, full-time tourney pro over the last ten years.

Good thing, as he doesn't exactly have anything else to fall back on!

Ni pos, Bryan. Obviously, you got VERY lucky right at the beginning, but three years ain't luck.

"If I hadn't played in card games, I'd prolly be a CFO in accounting..."
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Old 05-10-2004, 08:57 PM   #42
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Great post Dynasty!

Now if only the Sox could win it all this year, life would be complete.

Thanks for all your help.

Peace,
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Old 05-10-2004, 09:10 PM   #43
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P.S. - Stud Games In Vegas

The other weekend, F-Su, I played 15 & 20 stud at B for 3 days(mostly 20), 5-6 hours a day, btwn 1pm - 8pm. Very small sample, of course, AND I'm a MUCH better stud player than HE player. I can't play anything but HE at home(great games), and hadn't played anything but HE in LV for years.

But those games seemed soooo much better than the 20 HE at M and 15 HE @ B. Not even close. Not a wide selection of stud games, of course. The 40, 60 and/or 80 stud games looked good, too, but those are big steps up for me.

What am I missing? How are the day in, day out stud games in LV, inc. the 5-10 at M? I remember in the mid '90s that there would be three-four, 5-10 stud games at M, as well as rammin' 10, 15, & 20 games.

Like Biggie said, things done changed. What's it like now?

I'd also like to hear about stud & stud8 games in L.A., A.C., or anywhere else; limits, # of tables, rakes-collections, etc. Thanks.
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Old 05-11-2004, 12:57 AM   #44
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Re: Contrast Dynasty\'s Story To This One

friend that dealt at the wsop said tj is backed/broke, too many sportsbetting and cash game losses
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Old 05-11-2004, 01:15 AM   #45
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Re: Three Years in Las Vegas

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Do you see yourself pokering for the rest of your life?
I see myself playing for the indefinite future. It's hard to know how long that will be. After all, three years and one month ago, I never would have imagined where I am today.

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Also, I've always wanted to ask you, what's the worst run you've had (in terms of bb) since you've been in vegas?
I'd have to go through my records to know the exact answer. However, a couple weeks ago, I sent a PM to Clarkmeister which said something like this.

Shoot me. -96 big bets in my last three sessions.
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Old 05-11-2004, 01:21 AM   #46
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I'm curious what your friends and family thought of you moving to Vegas based on playing so little.
My friends were just shocked. Because I made the decision so fast, I didn't see some of them before I left. I told them through e-mails. I actually made my final decision to move to Vegas just 7-10 days before doing it.

I did not tell my family exactly what I was doing in Las Vegas until I returned to Massachusetts nearly a year later. I didn't want them to worry about it. My parents knew that I had considerable money to live on so paying the bills wasn't something they would be concerned about.
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Old 05-11-2004, 01:29 AM   #47
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Can you imagine that if you knew how little you really "knew" back then about poker you'd have chosen the same path? A professional with 19hrs of 1-3 stud huh? ROFLMAO
I don't think there was much that could convince me that I wouldn't succeed. While running chess tournaments and acting as President of the Boylston Chess Club in Boston, I interacted with quite a few chess professionals. So, I had some understanding of the effort it would take to do this.

However, I was prepared to fail. I decided before I left for Vegas that if it didn't work that I would just have to regard it as a 1 or 2 year super-vacation. Then, I'd go back to the regualar workforce and move on.
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Old 05-11-2004, 01:32 AM   #48
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19 hours of 1-3? Man were you lucky. I would've put the line at least at 1000-1 that you'd have been a dealer within 4 months.
Why lucky?

There was 0% chance of me being a dealer.
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Old 05-11-2004, 01:35 AM   #49
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Btw, what happened to Derek?
He's still plays and still reads the forums. He just doesn't post much anymore.
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Old 05-11-2004, 01:38 AM   #50
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Since you knew so little about poker when you moved to Vegas, did you even know that it was possible to earn a living from playing?
I intuitively knew that it could be done although I certainly had never heard the phrase "one big bet per hour". I must have also heard something about professional poker players existing but I don't remember anything specific.
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