Snowflake.

To be fair, I look for any minute reason to needle or slowroll because there is a direct correlation between being a miserable person and being a 1/2 regular...

Just move up and be less miserable.

Thoughts on creating threads in NVG that belong in Casino and Cardroom Poker?

Call it loud, call it proud. I’ll give everyone a pass on a once off tough decision. If you hit a minute more than once, it gets called. Next hand!

Absolutely horrifying how many people are pro tanking ITT, this is why I only play turbo cash live


Noteworthy. We need to ask WHY do people tank. We know it’s not the actual decision most of the time.

There’s a guy I played with who unnecessarily tanked so I chatted to him about it. He was just a typical break even wannabe who was looking for his leaks in all the wrong places. I told him if he stopped doing his stupid mini tank on most hands I would give him a REAL leak to plug. He respected me so he agreed and now he doesnt tank anymore (or call 3 bets cold OOP with suited cards, well not as much anyway)

It’s SO easy to just despise tankers, but talking to them can work

well it's sort of fun getting to read all the wrong answers.

You need to make a serious complaint about the OMC holding up the game constantly for no reason. Encourage others to do the same. You could use the dealer as leverage by telling OMC he's making more work for the dealer by not paying attention to the game and slowing the game down means fewer hands and less tips.

I think it's really very scummy and maybe unethical to tell other players how an adversary plays just because you don't like him or don't like his style of game but if he's deliberately slowing the game down or behaving badly in my opinion, I just might.

It's fine to call the clock. If the player in question also tanks excessively call the clock on that player too

Every dealer knew this guy and they knew they had to prompt him every time it was his turn. They didn't wait either. As soon as it was OMC's turn, dealer would say "On you sir".

He was also a nice guy and wasn't deliberately holding up the game. Just a little slower than the rest of us.

you can actually call clock on yourself, I've done it before several times

agreed

if someone is always tanking, like you tank folding to a bb 3! to their btn steal, or tank folding pre because they think when they stop to think before raising pre that is a tell if they don't balance the tanking (there are actually people who believe this) then they get much less leeway in my mind, I'll call the clock on them after a minute or so, even when they are in tough spots like an overjam on the river

but for the most part, this isn't a big problem and if you get that bothered by somone tanking then that's a good indication that you probably aren't a very fun guy to play with and those guys don't get invited to the juicy games and don't get much action

if you're being social and don't have the headphones on, you'll barely notice. Ever notice in live at the bike how someone can tank for minutes and the other players are just talking to each other? That's typical and that's how you get invited for a game like that.

It's a cash game, so long as he isn't a serial tanker, relax

besides, you never know what's the reason behind the tank, it could legitimately be a very difficult spot

having said that, the guy calling the clock wasn't necessarily in the wrong, but he sure ensured he wasn't going to get as many invites to private games by doing it

The shot clocks have now set the standard. Feel free to call the clock on anyone after 30 seconds. If you can’t decide within that time then poker is not for you.

People in general take way too long to make decisions during poker. I don't like to call the clock but I understand people who do. I feel like even the most drastic decisions at a poker table shouldn't take longer then a minute.

I did this recently as a level in a tournament. I was playing with a very well known tournament pro on my right, and a bad reg as the third in the hand. Action went me and the tourney pro both hit a gutshot to the nuts on the turn, action checked through, then on the river it went check, I bet 3/4th pot, then bad reg started tanking. Tourney pro called the clock, then bad reg put in a 3x raise. Tourney pro snap shoved and I told the floor who was still there to put the clock on me. I did a lot of hollywood agonizing over my decision, then called it off for my stack. Then action went back onto the bad reg who was in a puke spot having already committed about half of his stack. Tourney pro asked for the clock to be put back on the bad reg who ended up calling and we chopped his stack. Only time I've ever seen the clock called three times in the same hand.

2 minutes is already way too long
plus he's going to get another minute on the countdown
5 minutes total to make a decision is absurd

try acting faster
you're gonna needle and slowroll people because your brain works too slow? makes sense.

He came to that conclusion because his brain works too slow. It's not a surprise.

I am so sorry I have a different opinion about this as you. I sincerely apologize from the depths of my heart and may God have mercy on my mentally deficient soul.

Also, never had the clock called on me ever. I just tend not to tap the tank when I am playing.

oddly I find myself in agreement with Kelvis.

First time I can rem for that.

It's real bad, hopefully one day someone will start to do something about it.

tanking over a $45 decision in a low limit cash game is a shitheel move. have some respect for other people's time.

The stigma on calling clock needs to be removed. A good way to do this is to call the clock a lot so it creates an environment where it's expected.

I call the clock on my friends w/e stop wasting my time.

Chess players take a long time on hard moves, some times over 30 minutes, or an hour. For a single move.

Poker is harder than chess, yet u get upset if they take 2 or 3 minutes on a very hard move. Smh

This is not a good comparison and if someone were playing chess with me and took an hour for a move I would never play with them again. Most games are played with a clock and chess is pretty awful to watch without one. The limited time also opens up errors and interesting games.

Online poker has time banks and you never get >3minutes for a decision on any site I'm pretty sure. I get 15 seconds at 500nl fast fold...

Poker isn't always harder than chess if you have 74o utg you are going to fold. If you have KT and an old man shoves 200bb on T5432 you are going to fold. Stop wasting people's time.

Not all decisions are equal and even if they are I shouldn't be able to remote access my PC on my phone, sim the hand, look through the tree, share it with a group chat and discuss it a bit, and then look up and see some backpack kid thinking about what to do facing a half pot bet on turn.

The stakes and the money at risk don't matter much, the decision isn't easier just because it's low limit. Poker is about being right even if you're playing for toothpicks but I can understand going over things twice for an $80,000 pot. Yet people who tank often need to get lost.