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Thoughts on calling clock ? Thoughts on calling clock ?

08-15-2019 , 03:06 PM
I've heard there are places where only a player who is not in the hand can call clock. Hands per hour affects EV, so of course players not in the hand have an interest in how long it takes.
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08-15-2019 , 04:10 PM
call the clock as much as possible

delayers should be shunned
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08-15-2019 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperknit
Chess players take a long time on hard moves, some times over 30 minutes, or an hour. For a single move.

Poker is harder than chess, yet u get upset if they take 2 or 3 minutes on a very hard move. Smh
stop wasting everyone's time with your tanking

chess is played heads up
if you're playing poker heads up and you want to keep tanking that's fine as long as your opponents wants to keep playing with you.
but in a regular casino setting it's terrible for the game, and almost all of it is nothing but time wasting nonsense.
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08-15-2019 , 08:10 PM
Add “poker is harder than chess” to the list of stupid reasons to tank in poker

Heard another recently when the serial tanker was being berated by the table, he blurted out “its a game of patience!”

Honestly Thoughts on calling clock ?.... it seems like how much tanking you do is directly correlated to how much of an inconsiderate douchebag you are
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08-15-2019 , 11:28 PM
I had the clock called on me on Tuesday in a tournament. I am a reg and the dealer and floor are friends. The guy that called clock is a strange guy who comes once a month who was not involved in the hand. Most of the other players and the dealer gave wtf eye rolls because it was called pretty quick.

Floor came and asked the dealer if I had been given adequate time and she started to say no and a couple of the other Regs argued it was too quick. I jumped in and said yes, I had enough time. He gave me a minute with a 10 second countdown but it never got that far and I folded.

Not at all eventful to me, but I think the dealer and other regs telling the floor that he called it too quick and me not reacting to him, really tilted and flustered him. He was out two hands later, bitching as he left the table, when the big stack called his preflop shove with a better hand. You could almost feel the energy of the table turn against him and see his discomfort with it.

I am going to try the same thing if it happens again.

Last edited by jjjou812; 08-15-2019 at 11:34 PM.
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08-16-2019 , 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperknit
Chess players take a long time on hard moves, some times over 30 minutes, or an hour. For a single move.

Poker is harder than chess, yet u get upset if they take 2 or 3 minutes on a very hard move. Smh
Hard to know where to start with all the things wrong with this comparison.

No one's going to call clock on you here, so feel free to take a long time on posts in the future.
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08-16-2019 , 03:24 AM
A lot of "tough" decisions in poker are still rather automatic and can be rationalized in under 120 seconds. Poker has up to 4 phases per "game" (simplified statement), and chess crushes that number by a country mile not only in number of turns, but the subsequent number of possible branching paths.

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I would have called the clock on the OMC the next time he slowed the action, or incited the other guy to do it.

Last edited by Dick Tracy; 08-16-2019 at 03:30 AM.
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08-16-2019 , 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

No one's going to call clock on you here, so feel free to take a long time on posts in the future.

[X] start day with a NVG laugh. 10 humor points for BoBo




p.s [ ] poker tree = chess tree
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08-16-2019 , 11:37 AM
Do you think calling the clock on a player typically tilts them towards folding or calling?

It is obviously up to player type, situation, etc.. but just curious if ppl thinkits tends to go one way more than the other.
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08-16-2019 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MuckleberryFinn
Do you think calling the clock on a player typically tilts them towards folding or calling?
I don’t think that really matters because the majority of time, players already made a decision and then just Hollywood about how hard that decision was.

Maybe some players take time to talk themselves into calling or folding but I doubt that’s that often.
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08-16-2019 , 07:23 PM
No way poker is harder than chess.
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08-16-2019 , 08:37 PM
This summer I almost introduced a new player to nlh. When she saw how fast the game were played she backed out though. This was 1/3 at bellagio.
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08-19-2019 , 06:21 AM
I wish more people would call the clock. It's bad enough in 1/2 with our local dealers talking incessantly and slowing it down to 25 hands per hour, but when i'm stuck guys tanking on 12 dollar raises, weird AF.
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08-19-2019 , 02:52 PM
chess is a 10 in difficulty poker is a 2
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08-19-2019 , 03:02 PM
If players always take too long, I usually just point out that players who try to keep the game moving can take as long as they want on big decisions. Players who always take too long dont get extra time.
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08-20-2019 , 10:06 AM
I do see calling the clock on those who tank as being a good thing. But keep in mind, it will start to be used as a tool by a few to get under the skin of players that are not tanking in the hopes of them making a bad choice due to possible tilt.
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08-22-2019 , 02:21 AM
SPOILER: OP is the guy tanking for 2 minutes

J/k. If a player is tanking too long, or too frequently, clock should be called. It's not fair to other players when one player keeps slowing down the game

This post should probably be in the live casino poker forum not here?
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08-24-2019 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyDough
SPOILER: OP is the guy tanking for 2 minutes

J/k. If a player is tanking too long, or too frequently, clock should be called. It's not fair to other players when one player keeps slowing down the game

This post should probably be in the live casino poker forum not here?
Nope, I'm not the guy who was tanking. The guy who was tanking got pissed because the old guy who called the clock wasn't in the hand. It was ironic that the old guy was super slow each time the action was on him.

I wanted to get other players VIEWS on calling a clock when you're not in the hand. This is News / VIEWS / and Gossip, right ?
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08-24-2019 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by wheelflush
Seems like we agree that stakes matter, but we don't know why.
Small stakes usually pay pot rake higher usually pays time. Value of time vs value of money is also easier to fall in time's favor the smaller the game.
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08-24-2019 , 03:55 PM
I play @ niagara falls w/ time rake taken every half hour. People play generally fast and we simply wont tolerate tanking at our games. The people that do will quickly learn they get the clock called on them. People are smart though and generally "get it" and that speed is better in time rake.

I give 0 ****s if im in the hand or not to call the clock on you, especially if i feel your choice is easy/mediocre or the pot is smallish.

Low stakes or the 5/10 game it doesnt matter dont tank a lot in poker its stupid and makes games suck.
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08-25-2019 , 04:28 PM
Depends on the bet and situation.

First tank, I give a guy as long as he needs.

Second tank, two minutes, if I'm in or out of hand.

Obviously, if the second tank is the result of having to call 100 or more big blinds, I just shut up.
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