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Originally Posted by hardinthepaint
IME, and I'm not and never have been a tournament pro, it's the casuals who want "good structures." I think there was a point in time where like every tournament was a "super" stack or "double" stack or "mega" stack. Casual players want a lot of "play" for their buy-in. By comparison, faster structures provide a much better hourly win rate for pros, and pros should be substantially better than casuals at navigating rapidly changing average stacks and ICM scenarios.
this was my line of thought. As a recreational, you also get more for your money. By definition the goal is not to make money long run, but to enjoy the fun of the game. Better structures provide this.
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Originally Posted by bumpnrun
Lol what. The game isn’t about the concerns of online poker professionals
Hypers and turbos are where it’s at. People /recs are too time poor now for 15 hour MTT sessions. We have families, and proper careers/businesses to run.
The late reg thing is annoying but the sites have their own agenda
you are implying that professional online poker players do not have families to take care of, looks like right away you just deal with a stereotype.
"the game is isn't about the concerns of online poker professionals" If I go to Mercedes to buy a car, I would like good quality and at the same time the fairest prices possible. I do however not go to the factory workers and employees and **** on them saying their wages should not be considered. I do not demand working conditions for them becoming so bad that they can barely if at all survive in life anymore, only to have a nice car at a nice price.
Spare me the talk about poker players not providing anything of value. We can have the same discussion about professional Basketball players or Soccer players, Twitch Streamers etc. Everyone in their profession wants to be able to provide for their family.
It sounds like you are playing poker recreationally and have yourself a "proper business" to run. It sounds very much like you are looking down on professional poker players, like your life and job are more important. Why then, when you are only playing poker for fun and you have a successful career and family, should only your concerns about the game be considered exactly?
It is getting tiring to see the same kind of talk over and over again from resentful people, businessmen and sponsored poker players already set up for life, shaming other professionals into not standing up for what is good for them. Honestly that is even the only explanation I have for why not more regs have been openly discussing these issues.
I want higher quality MTTs again for online poker and they should be there if poker as an intriguing competitive sport is to be kept alive. Also I think the proponents for "everything fast" fell for a short term illusion in any case and having good quality structures will be better for both recreationals and professionals in the long run.
Bring the 1k Super Tuesday back with a 20min blind structure and run a 1k turbo with the same prize pool at the same time. You can even do both. And we will see which prize pools have to be adjusted higher which lower in the long run.