The recording won’t be released it’s for my safety. Ask Taylor he’s not denying that he cheated. According to Chad Holloway, he had already admitted to cheating happening in his game (but he’s not involved) and Pokernews is coming out with an article soon.

Like he is going to come beat you up if you put out the evidence?

Just get yourself out of danger. You can get back at him later. Hard to help you for the community. As this kinda looks like a stop and go accusation. Gto is no accusation without (hard) evidence. This looks different and pretty clear though. Hang in there.

Smells like a baseless accusation. Game where the deck is uncut and the deck goes through the two phones?? Feels like bs. OP claims to have evidence but shows no proof and in that pic, Taylor is nowhere to be seen. Something doesn’t feel right after OP claims here. Not good to slander someone’s name like this

Who's the dude in the pic

Terrible troll job or just that clueless? Clayton tweeted about the thread? He didn't say anything in OP was false regarding not cutting cards and having phones on table?

This is why you play at a casino, assuming it’s not the Stones. Can’t imagine going to play high stakes at a home game on the year 2020 when it’s this easy to cheat.

Imagine the integrity of university exams now.

Pros are not "printing" in these games. The rake is absurdly high, one may be stiffed, and one may be... cheated.
Electronics are ubiquitous @ the poker table now so no getting the toothpaste back in there imo.
Approx. 12 years ago an out of town guy was cleaning up in big NL games at an L.A. casino. It turned out he was in partnership with a floorman who was handing the game (he was playing in) marked card setups (with UV light marking iirc) and the player wore sunglasses that could read the markings. They were caught but I'm not sure what came of it.
@ JayCutler- I was never much a fan of your NFL career but I thank you for shining a light on this issue. This game is hard enough, without getting motherf&$#@*! cheated.

I've actually seen posts in the casino forum that poker rooms are implementing no phones at the table rules.

In Australia (Crown Melbourne at least) it's a rule and has been a rule for a long time, if you pull your phone out over the surface of the table you'll be told to stop.

this post with allegations is somehow less dangerous for your safety than posting proof?

fwiw dont know anything about this world or what happened but he told me a story about some boston old school gambler guy becoming partners with him and then cheating in some game he was running. think proof is needed here.

whose the guy in the picture? shouldnt his name be on this thraed

"Hey dealer, don't ever cut the deck, and also put it here next to my two phones weirdly stacked on top of each other for a couple of secs every hand before you deal."

AND NOBODY SAID ANYTHING?!?

Game sounds beatable AF even with ppl knowing what you have.

The player that caught them has many pictures and videos but not sure why not coming forward.

Well what they gonna do? It’s not like can go to police? If they are involved in any crime it’s probably just better to shut up and stay away from the game, or just quietly tell others about it.

JP Norden

At one point, no phones at the table was the norm for Las Vegas poker rooms.

the guy on seat 2

Step 1: Go to a casino and lay your cell phone on the table. See how many seconds it takes the dealer to tell you to get your phone off the table.

Step 2: Go to a home game where two phones are stacked on top of each other and the deck is placed in front of them.

Step 3: ????

Step 4: Profit!!!

Basically, it requires a specially marked deck, which is then read by the telephone-device, which can also be used to make phone calls, when not being used to cheat.

For what its worth, I have been told that a shufflemaster device also can be programmed to sort and stack a deck, without any need for marking cards or an on-table device.

Beats the hell out of edge-sorting fwiw.

I was going to call BS on that being the case, but SG Games advertises the DeckMate 2 as being able "to sort cards back to a suited deck." So I guess a software mod can probably cause it to stack the deck any way the programmer wants. Geeze. How long before that's the case? The dealer cut still can foil a stacked deck, but there may be a way to stack it where a cut in a certain area might guarantee a certain winner, albeit with completely different hands. A player in on it will know where he stands by which two cards he's dealt.

Two phones stacked on top of each other in itself is not that weird. Many home games I play in, people have 2 phones - a work and personal cell. Its not uncommon to have them stacked/on the table. Having them that far into the table and the cutting stuff is suspect however.

The deckmate 2 can spade the deck but ive never heard of an instance where anyone has programmed it to anything else. Also it is clearly noticeable when it is in spade mode. The light flashes crazy and i forget if it changes colors or what it does but you would notice if it was ever in any type of sort mode.

What about the part where you tell the shuffler how many people are getting dealt into the hand?