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06-06-2017 , 12:05 AM
For those in Perth the PLO is going to be offered daily, 1/3 max buy in 500 rake 10% capped at $10.

5/5 will also run at peak with rake structure A. No rake before $50 capped at $20 not sure what %.

The 1/3 game will be softest but by miles worst value.
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06-06-2017 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by cheltNAM
For those in Perth the PLO is going to be offered daily, 1/3 max buy in 500 rake 10% capped at $10.

5/5 will also run at peak with rake structure A. No rake before $50 capped at $20 not sure what %.

The 1/3 game will be softest but by miles worst value.
Ugh why do they offer so much value to PLO players. I love the game but you get less hands per hour and they give you 10$ rake.
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06-06-2017 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jarrydg
Crown has tried to phase out the 1/2 NLH a couple of times, but there is lots of demand for it. Afaik they barely make money from the 1/2 game, they are never going to lower the rake.
How do they not make money? They take 33% more rake then at 1/3 and just as many games run.
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06-06-2017 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Tilltard
How do they not make money? They take 33% more rake then at 1/3 and just as many games run.
People buyin for less and everyone limps in every hand, fewer hands/hr and smaller pots. If they had the same rake structure as 1/3 it probably wouldn't be viable for them to run it. Dealers would be spending more time explaining rules to randoms which slows the game down further as well.
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06-06-2017 , 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jarrydg
People buyin for less and everyone limps in every hand, fewer hands/hr and smaller pots. If they had the same rake structure as 1/3 it probably wouldn't be viable for them to run it. Dealers would be spending more time explaining rules to randoms which slows the game down further as well.
Ugh, it's unpleasant to think about how further soft the games would be if they just spread 1/3 and made the rake a little less.
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06-06-2017 , 06:04 AM
I hope everyone feels for us in Canberra.

1 table of 5/5 $2-500 running most nights and sometimes one of 1/3 $100 or 1/2 $2-500 PLO (which I've never seen run) :/
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06-06-2017 , 04:50 PM
Pretty certain I can beat that Kny, we don't even have a casino in Newcastle.
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06-06-2017 , 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by max85
i think the worst part of live poker in australia is the depressing atmosphere, rude floor and dealers, no phones, overpriced drinks and crap structures.
This. It's so morbid.
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06-07-2017 , 12:06 AM
Have any Australians been able to withdraw from 888? When I try to withdraw it says there is "no available payment method for your withdrawal".
Thanks
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06-07-2017 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Zzatopek
Have any Australians been able to withdraw from 888? When I try to withdraw it says there is "no available payment method for your withdrawal".
Thanks
Didn't 888 withdraw from the market months ago?
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06-07-2017 , 02:09 AM
888 are so useless they still haven't managed to close all the Australian accounts. Some aussies got closed on the first day, but some are still active and able to play, just not deposit or withdraw.
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06-07-2017 , 02:25 AM
I've emailed 888 customer service several times to no avail. Today I decided to fork out and call their Australian phone number and the number isn't even connected!
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06-07-2017 , 02:39 AM
Try tweeting at them or posting in their support thread in the forum here maybe?
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06-09-2017 , 11:23 AM
Can Aussies still play on iPoker skins like Mansion Poker?
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06-09-2017 , 06:12 PM
ipoker withdrew from australia a few years ago but if you had an active account already they still let you play there normally. Not sure about recently though I havent been back for last 3 months.
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06-09-2017 , 11:02 PM
not all ipoker skins withdraw
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06-10-2017 , 12:33 AM
Ah ok Im talking about titan actually.
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06-10-2017 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by TonnaMunz
not all ipoker skins withdraw
Which ipoker skins do you play on?

I can still login to Mansion Poker so I assume I can still play on the site.
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06-10-2017 , 06:42 PM
Do we have any idea of updated timelines? When's the banhammer coming?
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06-10-2017 , 08:44 PM
Hi guys, sorry to derail but I need abit of help/advice.

Yesterday, I realised one of my Australian bank accounts have been locked/restricted. So I called in to the 24hour customer service line and was told that my account was locked due to certain transactions and the relevant department(e-crime/fraud) handling it does not work on weekends and was told to contact them on Tuesday(Mon is a PH).

The only transactions I have for that account is people transfering me funds for the Bitcoin that I sell to them on an online exchange. Safe to say I average about 15-30 transactions a month. I get the Bitcoins via my poker site withdrawal.

What I would like to ask if on Tuesday when I call them, do I just tell them the absolute truth of my transactions or should I becareful about mentioning online poker?

Thanks in advance.
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06-10-2017 , 09:34 PM
tell them the truth, it's not illegal.
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06-11-2017 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Aliquantum
Do we have any idea of updated timelines? When's the banhammer coming?
+1 to this question

Any dates?
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06-11-2017 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by pontylad
tell them the truth, it's not illegal.
+1. Find out what they've done why they've done it first though. Keep it brief and don't volunteer information they don't request.
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06-11-2017 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by pontylad
tell them the truth, it's not illegal.
This

I get my bank accounts locked for 'suspicious' (but legitimate) transactions to offshore sportsbooks quite a bit (and on one or two occasions poker) i'd say on average maybe once or twice a year. That said i've actually had my credit card details stolen twice in the past 12 or so years, so they're probably touchier than average with my account because of that (once due to 5dimes having its database breached and once due to I don't know, once due to keylogger like 10 yrs ago). They've frozen a card or account of mine at least 8-10 times though including once 'for accessing cardless cash' the first time I used it which is a feature of theirs that they advertise.

Just tell the truth there is nothing illegal about sportsbetting or playing poker either on or offshore in Australia as a player. As long as you're not operating a gambling related business in breach of the UIGEA you're fine. As a personal punter or bitcoin speculator you have nothing to worry about. Obviously no need to volunteer info they don't ask for, just see what they want and tell the truth.

Also @ everyone asking about dates, the answer is we don't know but Stars have 30 days to comply with the legislation once it's final so even when it happens we'll probably have a (short) window. Joey will update us when it happens and i'm sure Senator Leyonhjelm will advise us on our best course of action to support his inquiry into online poker when he moves forward with that, which i'm of the understanding he can't do until the legislation's finalised etc.

Last edited by SwoopAE; 06-11-2017 at 11:09 AM.
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06-13-2017 , 04:54 AM
Gold Coast Poker Pro prosecuted under Interactive Gambling Act

6 June 2017

Pro fined $10,000 for providing an illegal gambling service.
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