Have we got any fresh news, or updates from the January update?

The Group that hold the Crown Casino brand was in talk with the Wynn group to sell.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-...s-end/10987102

but has ended prematurely.

If the Australian government is so adamant about protecting its citizens from the dangers of online Gambling and they didn't want to see a lot of the revenue go off shore then if a deal like this will most certainly see to that? Seems counter intuitive for the Aust's governments narrative.

I guess the 22,000 poker machines that rake in $21billion per annum is enough for them

The election is happening right now. This is the best time to have your voice heard.

Don't wait for AOPA or anyone else to do the hard work for you! Write your candidates directly!

What candidate should we email

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I have drafted an email and started spamming inboxes... I cant keep waiting for anyone to help me but me !

Its just comforting to know that there is an official body, also fighting the same fight!

https://www.alp.org.au/our-people/our-people/

these are all the people for the ALP - email everyone! then move to LNP and Greens, I am doing the same thing dude, we have to make ourselves heard and the time is now otherwise we will miss our voice and our chnace for however long!

To state the bloody obvious, I’m ropable that I’m watching a Sportsbet ad for betting on the general election during the half time of the rugby league on channel 9 but somehow it’s illegal to play poker online

I'm going to ask Joey for an update; I know he's a LNP guy but obviously the AOPA should be looking to get Labor on side as well as they're betting favs to win the election (between 4-1 and 5-1 favs) and the LNP has already adopted online poker as part of their platform, in theory at least as they didn't do anything to implement it over the past six months or so despite it being a done deal on paper.

We also have no idea what the makeup of the crossbench will be and whether Senator Leyonhjelm's replacement will retain his seat for the LDP etc. so regarding minor party lobbying that can be after the election but beforehand one would assume we want to get both Labor and the LNP on board to support online poker so that no matter who wins it gets passed during this next term of government.

edit: have asked him to update the thread specifically as to how we should proceed both for Labor and for the LNP

I mean we order food online, shop online, buy groceries online and even date online. What is the issue with consenting adults to play a game online for money

because its gambling.
also online poker could be rigged.
get a lot of mugs who want to play online for money when the odds are stacked against them to actually win anything in the long run.

Labour have made a big deal about 'taxing the multinationals, making sure they pay their fair share of tax' this has become a key policy for their campaign.

The tax revenue that could come from online poker could help fund their ambitious energy policy, god knows they will need to find the money from somewhere...

Can Aussie's still play on ACR?

Yes

Below is a reply I got from a Labour Minister. it doesn't seem to be a big issue for anyone in parliament now.



RE: ONLINE GAMBLING IN AUSTRALIA
Thank you for your email of 15 April 2019 in relation to online gambling, and specifically online poker, in Australia. I very much appreciate your sharing your concerns on this matter with me.
On a per-capita basis, Australians gamble more than any other nation in the world, and gambling has serious ramifications throughout Australian society. The Federal Government must take a proactive role in responding to community concerns and ensuring that legislation keeps up with rapid developments in online gambling. Labor supports strong harm minimisation measures to assist problem gamblers and protect young Australians.
As the House of Representatives has been dissolved, there is unfortunately no possibility of any further legislation being progressed on this issue before the election. However, please rest assured that I have taken your concerns into consideration, and if I am returned as Member for Cowan following the Federal election, I will be sure to discuss them with my Labor colleagues if there is a suitable opportunity to do so.
Thank you again for the email. Please feel free to get in touch again if you wish to discuss this matter further or have any other concerns.
Warm regards
САМО ОН
Dr Anne Aty MP Federal Member for Cowan
29 APR 2019

Such a polite way of telling you to GFY.

Election is coming up - that was the nicest way to give you a glimmer of hope just to get a vote. Majority of government probably have no clue on how to play poker and see it as straight up gambling which in the public eye they'd rather not endorse.

I don't see anytime soon of this legislation being altered unfortunately; I was hopeful but that's starting to fade.

that exactly how i read it, pretty tilting response from the government which is more likely to be seated next term

It may have been a polite way of saying we are too busy and can't do anything about that right now but at least it's a response and something Dr Anne Aty may not of thought much about before deyweresooted sent the letter, so well done to you for bringing it to the forefront of a politicians mind.

As she says "Labor supports strong harm minimisation measures to assist problem gamblers and protect young Australians" and that is great, we want that as well, although I would say to protect all Australians. This is the angle that we need to work on. Trying to explain to people who know nothing about online poker that having access to online poker can protect enthusiasts by smaller buyins (being able to buyin for 100 bigs for a couple of dollars rather than $400 at Star which is 100 bigs at the lowest stake).

I am hopeful for the future. Just a thought, but we probably lost online poker because some big businesses wasn't getting their cut and hoped we would head to the casinos. Once the current government that looks after big business is gone (hopefully) then the conversation can change to what is harmful and how we can put in measures so people can still enjoy their hobby (and jobs) while still protecting the people that need it.

lol, yes labor definitely not interested in looking after the big wigs.....

Maybe we should propose a new module like Sweden's Svenskaspel.

It is owned by the state and heavy regulated. When you sign up you must write how much you would like to play with and gor how many hours before a session. Max stakes etc(Annoying for players but helps the addicts or bad players). This system helps players from making emotionally bad decisions in the future. The best thing about a state owned gambling system is all rake generated goes straight to the government. So it's a win/win for everyone.

http://www.tai.org.au/sites/defualt/...st%20FINAL.pdf

Maybe this report shows why Austrlian's are the worst Gamblers per capita, got tnothing to do with Online Gambling.

The discussion paper points to figures that show about 80% of the world’s poker machines are in dedicated gambling venues, such as casinos. Only 241,000 poker machines worldwide are in non-gaming venues, with the vast majority of those – 183,000 – in Australia’s pubs and clubs.

The report’s co-author Bill Browne said: “Australia’s large number of poker machines and our unusual decision to allow them in pubs and clubs make us a global anomaly.

“Australia has 0.3% of the world’s population but 6% of its conventional gaming machines and 18% of its poker machines.

“In terms of machines per person, Australia is right up there with casino-states like Monaco, Macau and Caribbean island nations.”

Looks like at this point labor are heavy favorites

https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting...rnment-2767301

good job. they need to ban pokies crown poker all live poker in australia. only allow 2 up because its a better game.

What you expect when they will lean even more left with needing the support of the Greens in the Senate to pass any laws.

They aren't as heavy favorites as the bookies make them out to be.

Latest Newspoll poll has them in front 51-49 and when you factor in that the incumbants tend to get maybe a 1% to 1.5% leg up on election day then I think it is a lot closer than what the experts are saying.

Also have to remember that if you are looking at outright numbers that if One Nation and the Palmer United Party (and Katter Australia Party and any other conservative minor party) get a primary vote that is higher than the greens and the Coalition primary is higher than Labor then you know it is going to be a close race.

The same result in today's Newspoll with the Coalition still trailing 51-49 with Scott Morrison extending his lead in the preferred Prime Minister's stakes. This is not lost for poker in this country especially if the Coalition can hang on to a slender win and also a reliance on One Nation and the Palmer United Party in the Senate to pass bills (of which they are the two parties that are least going to care about the regulation of poker).

well the Greens would definitely be the ones to support this type of legislation along with things like the legalization of cannabis and what have you, so why wouldn't BOTH major parties get on board knowing the senate they face?