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Old 10-18-2017, 04:32 AM   #3626
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Re: TAKE ACTION: Need urgent help to keep Australian online poker. Deadline 21 July #AusFight4P

Thanks for sharing. Reading now.

So what happens next exactly? Who is the report tabled to?
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Old 10-18-2017, 04:41 AM   #3627
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Thanks Lazza.

While the Senate didn't say "**** yeah legalise online poker", they didn't say ban it. Seems like the report is more on the positive side?

Thoughts from some more well-versed political people in this forum?
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Old 10-18-2017, 04:51 AM   #3628
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Hmm.. not sure how what will happen now.. the evidence in this report is ridiculously in favour, yet from what i gathered it seems like when they said more research in the recommendations they're still not sure.. I'm no expert at this, but aside from the vague recommendations it seems generally positive, stuff we already know but written on paper.. I suppose it comes down to the senators horse trading, should work if they still had doubts when the government read this in full. Though it seems like it'll be really lengthy, years lengthy. Sense of urgency doesn't seem high.
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Old 10-18-2017, 06:22 AM   #3629
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Re: TAKE ACTION: Need urgent help to keep Australian online poker. Deadline 21 July #AusFight4P

You can skip to section 4, the first three sections are basically a summary of what has happened so far and cliffnotes of the submissions/hearings. I'd say important cliffs are below
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4.3 The committee is of the view that harm minimisation and consumer protection should be of primary importance when regulating the online gambling industry. As such, the committee supports the efforts of the Australian Government to ensure that the impacts of gambling-related harms on the community are reduced, and that Australian consumers are protected.
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4.15 The Australian Government has acknowledged the need for a strong national consumer protection framework and has undertaken significant work to implement such a scheme to protect users of online gambling services. The Department of Social Services noted that the implementation of such a scheme is absolutely vital before any kind of liberalisation of the online gambling market.
They also explain that a lot more research in potential benefits/harms needs to be done. They only have two recommendations:
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4.19 The committee commends the Australian Government's efforts to implement strong consumer protection measures, and harm minimisation strategies. The committee recommends that any future consideration of the legalisation of online poker should only occur following the complete implementation of the National Consumer Protection Framework.

4.20 The committee recommends that the Department of Social Services support research into the impact of regulatory approaches on online poker, including the relative benefits and harms associated with prohibition and legalisation.
Which the government will respond to, either agreeing to all/one/none of the recommendations and moving forward from there.

I'd say the cliffs of the cliffs: online poker's return won't be discussed until the National Consumer Protection Framework has been completely implemented. Last I heard they wanted this to be done by the end of the year but lol at the government getting something done on time.

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Old 10-18-2017, 06:59 AM   #3630
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Thanks Bazooka.

Does the gov have a certain response time based on the findings?
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Old 10-18-2017, 07:36 AM   #3631
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As a community we should be very proud of our work here.

Some really good submissions from the Australian poker community and a lot of it was referenced in this report.

I have a meeting booked in with Minister Fifield at the end of this month to talk about the next steps. I will provide more information on that shortly.

Thank you everyone for your amazing effort.

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Old 10-18-2017, 08:06 AM   #3632
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Thanks Bazooka.

Does the gov have a certain response time based on the findings?
You can see a list of 2017 responses here, unfortunately there's no set time limit on these responses as far as I'm aware. As you can see some take a few months, some take several years or even longer.

Great to hear Joey, and as always thanks and massive props for the ongoing work
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Old 10-18-2017, 08:35 AM   #3633
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The report seems more like a summary of the arguments presented than any real course of action. It seems like a setback that we need to wait for the consumer protection framework thing to be done before anything happens and
'we need more research' is definitely a cop out. Looking forward to hearing what Leyonhjelm has to say as well as Joey after the Fifield meeting

Joey if there's anything we can do prior to the Fifield meeting to help our cause let us know.
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Old 10-18-2017, 08:55 AM   #3634
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Thanks again Bazooka.

Well done Joey, I appreciate everything your doing for the whole poker community.
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Old 10-18-2017, 06:09 PM   #3635
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Possibly wishful thinking but remembering the context, we heard that Senator Leyonhjelm made a deal with the Liberal Party to support the Media ownership changes in return for support for Online Poker.
Leyonhjelm and Bernardi came out very strongly in favour of online poker after hearing all the evidence so hopefully the "Media ownership for online poker" deal stands.
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Old 10-18-2017, 07:17 PM   #3636
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It wasn't a deal for support for online poker, it was a deal to get a department to do preliminary work on the feasibility of Australian providers getting a licence to operate online poker sites
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Old 10-19-2017, 02:20 AM   #3637
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The report seems more like a summary of the arguments presented than any real course of action. It seems like a setback that we need to wait for the consumer protection framework thing to be done before anything happens and
'we need more research' is definitely a cop out. Looking forward to hearing what Leyonhjelm has to say as well as Joey after the Fifield meeting

Joey if there's anything we can do prior to the Fifield meeting to help our cause let us know.
Is there any timeline for the consumer protection thing?
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Old 10-19-2017, 02:49 AM   #3638
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I heard theyre aiming to have it done by the end of the year but that was second hand info I have no idea i'll look into it more when I get a chance
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Old 10-25-2017, 09:01 PM   #3639
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Re: TAKE ACTION: Need urgent help to keep Australian online poker. Deadline 21 July #AusFight4P

Hey guys,

If anyone is interested in a summary of everything check out this article from So Much Poker.

Will have some information about upcoming meetings shortly.

Thanks

http://somuchpoker.com/the-saga-of-o...port-released/
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Old 10-26-2017, 07:31 AM   #3640
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Thanks, Joey.

Please let us know if there is anything we can do to support you in our endeavour to get online poker back.
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Old 11-08-2017, 11:34 PM   #3641
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As a community we should be very proud of our work here.

Some really good submissions from the Australian poker community and a lot of it was referenced in this report.

I have a meeting booked in with Minister Fifield at the end of this month to talk about the next steps. I will provide more information on that shortly.

Thank you everyone for your amazing effort.

JoeyDel
Any updates Joey?
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