says the guy who chose a pre-pubescent, pornstar pun as his screen name

Not to derail the thread but....

As an australian player i received an email today from Pokerstars with an offer to purchase 940,000 play chips for $2.99 for some silly shark sale.....lol just no..

I wonder if this contravenes/circumnavigates the new legislation per se..

Im sure its just because im still in their emailing database.

Anyhoo...Carry on...GL to those who found suitable online sites...Im now B&M only player... 1/3 PLO ftw.......weeeeeeeeee

Any New Zealanders that use westpac done a recent cash out? I might have to open up a new account with a different bank if they block it over here.

no one has confirmed this happening yet apart from the original post.

Please no-one hold back.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/n...ae390ca3050dcc

Honestly not as good news as you think it is. Nick was actually helping us a decent amount behind the scenes.

He will be replaced by another NXT member who may not do this. We shall see.

In other news, have had some good discussions over the past week and will hopefully have some announcements coming out shortly!

Now that the law has been passed and all sites with meaningful licenses have pulled out, I would be interested to know what measures the government is taking to protect Australians from rogue online slot operators specifically targeting Australia.

One such company who has been known to not pay out and is seen as blacklisted on some case review sites was advertising a raffle for 2000 spending money and a trip to bondi beach, there is another called emupoker and another called fairgo with a map of Australia as its logo.

Does anyone know which body or bodies is enforcing this law? I am certain this is going to be an overall negative for Aussies, most of these sites serving Australia that do not have poker are unlikely to pay winnings in many circumstances and freerollimg aussiea

bundy - How much more evidence do you need that all this stuff happening isn't some grand conspiracy with Xenophon pulling everyone's strings?

If there was no Xenophon or Xenophon party there would be no amendment. Can I get any clearer than that? Certain political forces at play have prompted this quite minor change to the law that has such large effects on us. I for one welcome his departure.

Wrong. Xeno tabled his own private members bill in 2015 which didn't get support from either the Coalition or the ALP.

Please do

The Coalition acting on the recommendations of the O'Farrell report. Remember that we are caught in a catchall of unregulated/unlicensed sites. That amendment was not an attack on online poker.

I certainly don't. He has been generally supportive and voted FOR the Senate inquiry.

If we were also trying to include online slots in our argument, then we would lose his support.

Yup, all of above. bundy I'm sorry but you don't know what you're talking about

I think it's disingenuous to claim Xenaphon has been trying to help us. Going back over things from my memory of him pushing for sites like FT and PS to be put on the ACMA blacklist back around black friday brought me to this IGA committee report from 2011 that he was on.

http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_...ing/report/c07

"Specifically the IGA should be amended to capture methods of avoidance such as websites which provide links to facilitate access to prohibited interactive gambling services."

Yet the PC report in to the IGA, tabled and discusses as part of this inquiry had the following to say about poker

"7.75 The PC outlined why it believed that online poker could be liberalised:

it has a different character to poker machines;
it is seen as a game of skill;
there is no evidence that players experience the trance-like states that occur when playing EGMs;
there is a social dimension in that one plays against other people so it is very interactive;
other games can be played much more quickly and the stakeholder for other games is the casino; and
the ground rules that apply, with players competing for a pot of money to which they contribute, limits losses.[84]"

This is in 2011, in an inquiry that he was a part of where the PC stated that poker should be carved out and he and the other members like Wilkie have zero credibility to claim they have any desire to see online poker exempt from the IGA

Xenophon is anti gambling in general but wasn't anti online poker specifically. Joey knows vastly more about it than anyone else itt given his involvement in the process as head of the aopa

Overall I'm glad he's out of parliament but he certainly isn't solely to blame for our situation

So what the guy said in 2011 is what he must think today? Jesus, if my thinking was the same today as 6 years ago I'd be in a lot of trouble.

I didn't say he was helping, only that he was generally supportive

You must be reading a different report to me. Wilkie was Chair of that committee and his conclusion was:

For both Wilkie and Xeno, their major focus is to ensure that the appropriate protections are in place.

Only a few days until the committee report is released. Hopefully the conclusions are basically do what the UK did. I'm optimistic it'll be regulate hopefully leyonhjelm and Duniam and the rest of the committee can get the libs on board for sensible regulation laws

No of course not. He's just supporting measures that he was elected on which is broadly to be anti-gambling. But what you do have with a government is that before the news this week that he is quitting to run for the SA Parliament and although someone will replace him in the Senate (and therefore the change won't be all that dramatic from a policy point of view) they needed his support for other measures where his position is less well known and won't really impact on his reputation.

Correct me if I'm wrong but there doesn't seem to have been the impetus for change before the election and now that an election was had and resulted in a diverse cross bench to deal with in the Senate with legislation that could pass without the Greens support and you suddenly get a clamp down on this and other gambling restrictions I would imagine - coincidence? I think not.

Again, as I've repeated about ten times throughout this thread, it's entirely speculation on your part. Whereas Joey, myself and others have posted countless evidence showing it's not true at all.

Seeing as the O'Farrell report was released in November 2015, and the government response was in April 2016 which supported 18/19 recommendations, and these were both before the election - your thinking is incorrect.

Now that there's some discussion again about the fight for Australian online poker, I think it's time to move all the "what site is best now", "how do I deposit", "how do you do X on site Y" questions over to where they belong, in Internet Poker:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...ayers-1683101/

I'm going to move the last few posts that are site-related over there now, and would ask that we keep this thread on topic, which is posts related to Australia's online poker laws.

What happened?

It's now due today

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary...ns/OnlinePoker

I'm on a plane today but hoping the transcripts will be available tonight. Does anyone know what time it's happening today?

Not scheduled until late afternoon

Is this this view able somewhere or do they just release their findings and that's it?

Report has been tabled and can be viewed at https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary...nePoker/Report.