just thought i would add that for the deposit i made on ignition that took 18 hours to be credited using blockchain i had to laugh when they seem to be inferring that this is the reason my deposit took so long was:

Hi xxxxx,

We’re contacting you from Ignition Casino Customer Service.

When depositing through Bitcoin, it is important to generate a new address for every transaction.

We’ve credited you for your deposit with Reference Number xxxxxxxxx
Regards,

Ignition Casino Customer Service
service@ignitioncasino.eu
1-855-370-0600

this is so bull**** since a) blockchain creates a new wallet address every time you make a transaction and b)all the addresses from that wallet i've had to send to them are different)

The catch is their 1st x deposit BS I deposited $220 for the casino 1st x deposit and only made 96c in mile rewards after punting $800-$900 + in 1 day.

I sent them a email asking them how much do I need to play before I clear the 1st x bonus and I asked can I deposit using my own $ with out using any of the bonus with no strings attacked so I can play in the poker section and the casino section and be able to withdraw when ever I want to.

Their reply was dont sweat it we got you covered we have given you a bonus with out telling me the amount just saying go check your account and they didnt answer my questions.

Next day I get 2 separate email 1) telling me the $10,49cUSD $13,17cAUD bonus i need to go to the bonus section and claim the poker bonus to be able to receive it.

2nd) They said I made a $220 1st x deposit + $220 they gave me =$440x25 = $11k I have to punt before I can withdraw WTF $11k for a $220 deposit what kind of welcome to our site is that.

They are bit doggy with their bonus's I am waiting on their reply I asked them if I use the $10,49cUSD poker bonus will that cancel my next 1st x deposit poker bonus the next time I deposit.

Which also has a 25x play-through.

Pretty certain ignition offers this service.

Is there a good, low cost way to hedge your bitcoin deposits at poker sites so you have little exposure to bitcoin fluctuations?

I'm an American online player considering moving to Australia (just cuz it might be cool).

What's the update on the online poker ban? BTW, this thread was started back in 2013! So players have been worrying about this for 4 years, and I'm wondering if whatever is going on now is different ?

THanks for any input, and where you think online poker in AUS will be in the coming years?

p.s. I would consider getting a VPN but don't know almost anything about it and how secure it is. Reading that some people got caught (all very speculative information from every side, especially when people post on tilt and in general, everyone on twoplustwo is on slight tilt).

Its completely banned by the government 2 or 3 weeks ago (Bill passed into law)

Only option is to play on the illegal sites ACR, Ignition etc. Just read the last 20 or 30 pages of the thread.

The committee is issuing a report to recommend a course of action on October 17 so we'll know more then

The government is going to look seriously at it because Leyonhjelm (the pro poker senator) negotiated it in exchange for being the last vote the government needed on some unrelated media reform bill

For now it's illegal, i'd say we have a 5050 shot at getting it legal again in next 18 months but that could drastically increase or decrease over the next few weeks. Basically if Leyonhjelm can convince the government to support his recommendations it's very likely to pass as Leyonhjelm can make that (and other libertarian causes he supports) a condition of his support on the budget or some other important bill over the next year or so.

You can still play on all of the same 'illegal' sites you do in the US and there are large live poker rooms in Melbourne and Sydney and smaller rooms in some other cities - the rake is higher than you're used to probably for cash but the standard of play is very weak and there are regular MTT series.

Every time i see this on Australian TV i die a little inside.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeafmEsR2tQ

Harm minimisation?

FWIW i've made deposits and withdrawals via btc to both acr and ignition and processing times have been fast with no issues.

Just watched Speers on Foxnews talk to (an English?) Exec from Lottoland about the current issues with Lotoland and (not paying) taxes, news agents, competition to tabcorp, etc. I thought the Lottoland Exec was good at explaining the “reality” of the current situation and how the stuff been said by Tabcorp, Hanson & the newsagent wasn’t accurate.

The most interesting part to me was that the exec talked about being about paying a 15% consumption based tax on profit that had the tax paid to all states (in the future, I think). Looked like there was a bit of similarity to the UK poker tax model.

Maybe, if Lottoland can set a precedent that is different to the current ring-fenced model used by the Australian wagering sites, maybe it can be utilised or modified for the regulation of online poker.

I'm okay if it's "illegal" but they are not prosecuting people. In the the US, Washington state, playing online poker is a FELONY (which is a category for SERIOUS crime), but nobody has ever been arrested even.

So is it like that? Because if it is, I don't really care. I like the american site I play on.

So in Washington state you could go to prison for playing a card game on your computer for a few dollars? Land of the FREE!

same, I withdrew $141 as a trial to my new blockchain and after the initial delay with verifying identity (about 1-2 days) all has been processed.

this was on ignition

I advice all OZ micro/mid stakes players to stay away from Ignition.
When u ask them about deposits etc they reply quickly when there is a problem or they owe you some $ they don't reply(when I wanted to deposit emails were coming with in 24hrs or less).

Now they owe me $45/$50 and I haven't had a reply/in the last 6th day.
I cut- past same email each time and added it's been 3-4-5- days each time.

When I send the email a reply comes saying we received it and your case number is xxxxxxx.

They have very low traffic for games they only offer NLH and PLO-hi-Lo and casino games which are a BIG SCAM I spent $190 on $1 spins got 15x spins and won 50c 2nd x 25x spins and had it on $1.50c a spin and won less then $2 WTF.

Their casino bonus says $220 I deposited +$220 they gave me =$240x 25=11k I need to play to clear bonus before I can withdraw WTF crap is that.

They also view their poker section and their casino section as 2 seperate sites if u claimed a bonus lol.

I tried to withdraw with coins and they took super long prob so price goes down?

There are a few decent sites I have found in the last few days with much more traffic for $ games there are always $ games running any level micro-HS .
Even mtt's running every few min with gtd and no where near the price of Ignition with a few free-rolls per day Ignition only does 1 a Month.

pm me if you are interested in knowing the name of this site wasn't sure if I'm allowed to enter the name of the site in thread, which also allows you to use HM2 on it, you can't use it on Ignition.

There is 30-50x the traffic Ignition has and gtd mtts are much cheaper and they offer every game stars did.

Thx guys GL.

thanks for the review, yea from what iv seen at first glance ACR seems better than ignition

Anyone still having mad troubkes withdrawing from better? They keep saying my bank statement is invalid lol. Fken pokerstars only giving too **** options to withdraw to

Why wouldn't you be allowed to post the name of the site in this thread?

And fwiw the huge turnover requirement before you can withdraw is completely standard for basically all online casinos. A good rule of thumb is to not accept any deposit bonus that online casinos offer you. They never work the same way that poker sites/sportsbooks do and make it pretty much impossible for you to be able to withdraw any winnings unless you get super lucky.

Although there is normally a way for you to forfeit a bonus after you have accepted it, so you might want to look into that (but this would also mean you would have to forfeit any winnings you made from the bonus).

I have checked out heaps of sites downloaded a few played a bit didn't like their lobby/ tables or bonus's Ignition only has NLH and PLO-hi-Lo no other games.

Also u can't use a HUD on their site, all their bonus's have a 25x play-through which means if u deposit $100+they give u $100=$200x 25 = $5,000 u must play before u can withdraw. (Or forfeit the bonus + u lose anything u have won)

I punted a few k on their site Ignition went up 1 level and a half and only have $1,96 in bonus funds (I emailed 6 days ago still no reply).

When I 1st emailed them and told them I want to deposit what is the best method they replied in less then 20hrs.

Download Black Chip Poker they are a mini version of stars with a 27% rake back/ card chat had a bonus for the site it is CC2000 and they have every game stars did + a casino section.

Mtts running always u can find micro games always all the way up to HS.
They have 5k player even at slow times, Ignition doesn't say how many players are on the site but I doubt they have more then 250-300 players at once.

You can use HM2 on Black Chip Poker, their lobby flickers every few sec I 1st thought it was a bug but it's not it is just updating new players that have just reg in mtts or cash game.

Decent graphics 100x better then Party micro/mid game player u can find cheap buy in mtt with gtd on Ignition a 1k mtt is about $22 with about 80-110 players.

They take a lot of different payment options even coins.

Best rake back+ good traffic + cheap mtts even big buy-in's graphics are very good and unreal rake back.

GL on the felt guys.

Blackchip has same player pool as acr right? If so player pool is awful and full of tag regs and bots grinding the beast rb. For micro it's hell wouldn't recommend regardless of software and nice rb. Ignition has over 300 just in zone pool the micro traffic is higher than acr so not sure what your on about.

Ignition has been super frustrating for me so far. Had successfully downloaded client onto my Mac 3 separate times but then each time I'd try and open it would just freeze on the LiveUpdate screen and go no further.
After giving up on that route, decided to give it a go on a windows surface pro laptop I also have. To my surprise one of the very first buttons I was able to click on from the main page allowed me to deposit a couple of hundred dollars no problemo, so though I was finally onto a winner. No sir-e tho. Even tho it swooped up my funds in an instant, I then realised I still had to download the poker client before playing.
This process took about another 2-3 hours as kept freezing again and needed to start over numerous times.
Eventually I'm on, I'm in the lobby, I can see a list of tourneys and feel I'm only moments away from again being able to lose my money on the online poker tables. Happy days!
I study the lobby intently, make my choice and reg a tourney that's about an hour into a 135min late reg period. I'm in- I thought, but then a pop up, 'this tourney does not allow late reg". Ok, so why does it say it does in lobby then? Whatever, another glitch I can deal with. I'm so close.
Register for another tourney that's just started and it actually says I'm in! I'm ****ing in! Multiple days of trying to get on suddenly seem worthwhile. But for the next hour or so I am only able to watch my 1500 starting stack slowly dwindle down to nothing from the Lobby, as when I try and actually open the table and take my seat it only ever reaches 23% loaded before going straight back to zero.

Still not exactly sure how my screen managed to make it through the night unscathed as I was seconds away from punching a hole clean through it outta frustration more than once. Ended my evening at about 3am with a delightfully worded email to support so am eagerly awaiting their reply now but not expecting much.
Be careful where you put your money boys n girls. Chit has definitely changed in the lucky country

I haven't played on ACR so not sure what the traffic is like their.
On Ignition u wil see 200/300 + players on their zone on 5c nl games.
And if you go to their mtt section you will see mtts with $22 buy-in with 70-120 players

Games running for 3-4hrs have got max 500-600 player in a good gtd game and often I see players reg and their is 3-4 players sometimes not even enough players to start the game.

And waiting for a reply from Ignition can take from 1-7 day's depending on what the issue is.

You also have to make 10,000 mile pts to get $5 back.

Some seriously ******ed people in here

Westpac Visa no longer works on Ignition. It did a couple of weeks ago. Assume the bank has blocked it. Awesome. Bitcoin here we come.

My goodness the High MTT on acr and ignition are SOFT
Ignition software mad tilting thou, can't fully resize

Can't even login half the time either, only 2 zone tables and doesn't pop up when it is ur action sometimes zzzz

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