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08-07-2017 , 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by pies01
Any time parliament sits, poker could get banned.
If this happens, PokerStars will leave Australia within a month.

Here are the 2017 sitting dates
http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Sitting_Calendar

Parliament is sitting every month from now until December for a week or two.
We are hopeful the government will wait until the recommendations to the poker hearing are delivered. This will happen by Mid September.
what are the chances of this? was there some sort of word that they would wait? seeing as the bill is back to the senate again for something surely they would all be aware right? and delay it? not sure whose decision it is? clarification?
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08-07-2017 , 05:11 AM
From what Joey has said, it's very likely they'll wait until after the report is submitted.

Btw, a good article here (via Sally Gainsbury's twitter):

https://calvinayre.com/2017/08/07/po...l-hearing/amp/
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08-07-2017 , 06:26 AM
"Evidence was also produced to show that the average age of online poker players was 39-years-old, shifting the perception that legalising online poker would lead to a raft of teenage sign-ups, and unpaid credit card bills"

wtf that stat is ridiculous haha
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08-07-2017 , 07:15 AM
https://www.highstakesdb.com/8057-se...ian-poker.aspx

Reasonably written by hsdb standards.
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08-07-2017 , 08:17 AM
Except for getting the greens senators name wrong

The Calvin ayre one Dr Gainsbury tweeted got joey's name wrong too

Lol journalism etc but it's all good content
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08-07-2017 , 08:22 AM
Except for getting the greens senators name wrong

The Calvin ayre one Dr Gainsbury tweeted got joey's name wrong too

Lol journalism etc but it's all good content
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08-07-2017 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by luke_brabin
Hey guys,

Joey, I'm afraid there's still no credit for Poker Asia Pacific but plenty for the "reputable" offshore guys in your SMH article, submission and speech. It appears like you're some sort of figurehead now for Australian Online Poker but forgot to mention Poker Asia Pacific at all.

Here's Poker Asia Pacific's original change.org petition from August 2016 after the first Australian site was shut down by the AFP and others allowed to continue to operate - not a word about that from you. Alliance?

https://www.change.org/p/help-us-reg...r-in-australia

Joey Del Duca, from out of the blue and founder of AOPA, made this petition on change.org in December 2016 and it was the first post on his newly created Facebook page: Australian Online Poker Alliance.

https://www.change.org/p/keep-online...edium=copylink

They are amazingly similar, right down to the heading and image used.

Joey told me that he didn't even know about Poker Asia Pacific's petition. He said he heard about PAP's petition one month after he created it. Really?

If it is true, it is not very well informed of him, for a figurehead, however, he told me; "he just saw something", and then had the idea to make his own petition on change.org and subsequent FB page.

It is precisely how it was done by Poker Asia Pacific on its Facebook page 3 months prior.

Thankfully, the senators will be the judge on this.

I do admit Joey has helped the cause, however, a little credit where credit is due would have been appreciated...

Thanks guys.

Credit for what? The 5 mins you spent putting together that change.org petition? Joey hepled the cause? Damn right he did. How much time did you spend lobbying politicians for our cause? Travel to Canberra on your own dime to help us out? You sound very bitter for reasons I am unsure of.
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08-08-2017 , 12:21 AM
Yeah that's a hilariously petty post
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08-08-2017 , 02:55 AM
Joey and SwoopAE you both have done a amazing job no matter what the out come is.
Joey don't let this Luke guy get you down we all know the HARD work you put it to get us this far and giving us a good chance at wining it.

1 Question Joey have you spoken to stars about will they buy the license if we get that far.?

thanks and keep the fight going guys.
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08-08-2017 , 03:07 AM
@AlanTudgeMP


Chatting with @PatsKarvelas @RNDrive at 6pm re significant online gambling & credit betting ban reform due to pass Senate tomorrow. #auspol

4:49 PM - 8 Aug 2017
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08-08-2017 , 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by kyan972
@AlanTudgeMP


Chatting with @PatsKarvelas @RNDrive at 6pm re significant online gambling & credit betting ban reform due to pass Senate tomorrow. #auspol

4:49 PM - 8 Aug 2017
I feel that even if online poker stopped world hunger they would still ban it, such ****ing idiots.
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08-08-2017 , 03:55 AM
Really admirable job Swoop, Joey and co, great to see you guys standing up for everyones ability to play the game
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08-08-2017 , 05:43 AM
If what Alan Tudge twitted is correct and its our bill, that can't bode well for us. Guess we will have to monitor Dynamic Red tomorrow morning to see what is listed.
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08-08-2017 , 05:53 AM
Just listened to him on abc - he briefly mentioned "offshore operators" in relation to the bill so yes, seems like it's us.
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08-08-2017 , 06:37 AM
This seems like a retaliation .. trying to get the point that no matter what, what we want is what we get.. why else would someone casually go out of there way to mention it, especially after a senate inquiry had a positive effect .. i may be wrong but it seems like they want it passed even more now then ever...
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08-08-2017 , 06:54 AM
It's first in the order of the day for tomorrow. Not sure what impact the re-introduction of the plebiscite will have on when it actually gets discussed though
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08-08-2017 , 07:02 AM
so like 9/10am then?
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08-08-2017 , 07:37 AM
So Stars will be out in a month then garunteed.. its a sneaky kind of move.. alot harder to come back into something .. oh well. gg.
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08-08-2017 , 07:38 AM
Session starts at 9:30 so 10-10:30 would be a good bet, again assuming the plebiscite is just getting entered to be debated at a later date
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08-08-2017 , 07:47 AM
Let's hope Sens leyonhjelm and Bernard use their leverage as right leaning crossbenchers here. Gl us
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08-08-2017 , 07:59 AM
Let's hit Alan tudge with some pro poker tweets on his status about it asking him to listen to the committees findings re online poker
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08-08-2017 , 08:22 AM
im not an expert but afaik xenophon is pro same sex marriage and there will be a vote regardless it just changes to a postal vote that isn't compulsory and can be appealed against where as a full plebiscite with support from both house and senate can't be appealed against and is compulsory just like election or sensis. Or it goes down the path where that select few libs in the house cross the floor and force a vote.
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08-08-2017 , 09:09 AM
There will be a Senate vote for the plebiscite which the government will lose, the postal vote will get challenged in the High Court. I'm just wondering if there'll be hours of debate about it tomorrow or later.

The fact that Tudge went on the radio and Twitter and said the IGA was happening tomorrow suggests that something will happen tomorrow, whether the Senate just accepts the House of Reps amendments or if we go back and forth again I guess we'll see
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08-08-2017 , 08:19 PM
Live stream here, http://www.aph.gov.au/News_and_Events/Watch_Parliament

Penny Wong grandstanding about the gay marriage right now.
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08-08-2017 , 08:52 PM
We're on
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