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Old 09-07-2013, 03:53 AM   #251
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Re: Poker In Australia But For How Long?

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Election today.

The Liberal National Party is really sad tbh. They're meant to be libertarians by definition, and support peoples choice and free, the free market, let the private sector flourish, and believe in small government. Sadly it's really the opposite, they are against gay marriage, trying to ban people from online poker, had that weird thing about an internet filter that lasted for like 2 hours, they're trying to give money to employers to hire people, essentially everything they're against. Then after 5 years of saying how Labor has put us in this horrible debt and been so wasteful (after the International Monetary Fund found their last government was the most wasteful in 200 years worth of financial documents of 55 leading economies) they come up with a poultry $6b of savings (or 0.035% lolcat).

I consider myself very much a libertarian and I'm not even supporting these muppets, I'm also very much right wing and I want the (supposed) left wing party to win lol.
How is being against gay marriage anti-liberal? Firstly, there is no established right for same sex to marry anyway and secondly, if you knew anything about coalition politics, you would understand about their need to respect convention and traditional institutions.

As for poker, well I'm convinced that it is all a storm in a teacup. For those that are making a big deal about it, well they are just bringing it to the attention of the liberals to enforce rather than doing something constructive to prevent it.
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Old 09-07-2013, 04:02 AM   #252
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Re: Poker In Australia But For How Long?

dont blame me i voted for wikileaks

agree with iliketurles, but lets face it... both options are atrocious here.
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Old 09-07-2013, 04:25 AM   #253
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Election today.

The Liberal National Party is really sad tbh. They're meant to be libertarians by definition, and support peoples choice and free, the free market, let the private sector flourish, and believe in small government. Sadly it's really the opposite, they are against gay marriage, trying to ban people from online poker, had that weird thing about an internet filter that lasted for like 2 hours, they're trying to give money to employers to hire people, essentially everything they're against. Then after 5 years of saying how Labor has put us in this horrible debt and been so wasteful (after the International Monetary Fund found their last government was the most wasteful in 200 years worth of financial documents of 55 leading economies) they come up with a poultry $6b of savings (or 0.035% lolcat).

I consider myself very much a libertarian and I'm not even supporting these muppets, I'm also very much right wing and I want the (supposed) left wing party to win lol.
You're getting your definitions of liberal and what liberals stand for a little mixed up. Also, if you are right wing then there are far more right wing parties then the liberal party out there.
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:06 AM   #254
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hmmm

http://www.pokerstarsblog.com/appt/2...de-141322.html

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also does anyone know what is the best way to sweat the election results ?

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Tony I'm from Sydney, I stay at the crown melb sometimes, I won't see your chat as I have all my stars tables minimized unless you post a blind
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:11 AM   #255
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Abbott in a landslide apparently?

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/0...98603320130907
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Old 09-07-2013, 08:26 AM   #256
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No mention of online poker in the acceptance speech so so far so good
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Old 09-07-2013, 09:05 AM   #257
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Thank fk this farce of an election is over.
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Old 09-07-2013, 09:46 AM   #258
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Tonna I'm from Sydney, I stay at the crown melb sometimes, I won't see your chat as I have all my stars tables minimized unless you post a blind
no prob sir, hehe ah nice, i get excited when i see good cash regs from aus, add me on skype if u likely same sn.



and gg us :S


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Old 09-07-2013, 12:20 PM   #259
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Voted for Tone and had an even money bet on the result when the other idiot could have got triple money+ with a bookie.

I'm a winR yay!
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Old 09-07-2013, 02:53 PM   #260
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieReTfE9d-E how I feel about Australian politics atm
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Old 09-07-2013, 11:23 PM   #261
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Well done South Aussies possibly two anti-gambling crusaders for the coalition to horse trade with instead of 1:
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Old 09-08-2013, 07:27 AM   #262
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Abbot is PM, online poker is well and truly still alive and THRIVING.
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Old 09-08-2013, 08:00 AM   #263
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Nick Xenophon will be in a balance of power position in the Senate from July 2014. Expect him advocating for the enforcement of the IGA from then (he'll advocate before then, but get far more traction from the middle of next year).
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Old 09-08-2013, 08:16 AM   #264
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On the plus side there will be a Libertarian Senator from SA (Liberal Democratic Party), and the Motoring Enthusiast party in Vic which claims to be against nanny state type laws.
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:38 AM   #265
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I'm firmly in the favour of not speaking or contacting any politicians in regards to poker and winging it under the radar until we have a more direct and definite threat. Honestly we don't need this **** brought up in Question time and screened on the ****ing ABC for the whole country to hear about, so Nick X and Abbott can have a witchhunt together and **** all of our lives up.
Ahh the pre UIGEA approach that worked so well in the US.

I am surprised there is not more concern. This is their policy, it is not a typo

http://www.liberal.org.au/helping-problem-gamblers

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4. A STRONGER ONLINE GAMBLING ENVIRONMENT
The Coalition does not support proposals by the Rudd-Gillard Government to relax online gambling regulation.

There are ongoing community concerns that the current laws prohibiting certain forms of online gambling, such as online poker and casino games, are not adequately enforced. Gambling sites illegally offered to Australians do not comply with strict probity requirements and harm minimisation requirements and pose a significant risk to users.

The Coalition will investigate methods of strengthening the enforcement of the Interactive Gambling Act and ensuring Australians are protected from illegal online gambling operators.
I know it may come as a shock but sometimes politicians do as they say they will, especially when they can clamp down on "illegal" poker to justify their ending mandatory pre commitment for pokies.
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Old 09-08-2013, 12:01 PM   #266
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True, but I feel as if online poker is not a priority at the moment for the Abbott government.
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Old 09-08-2013, 12:53 PM   #267
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Sucks, aus is a good location for poker.
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Old 09-08-2013, 06:43 PM   #268
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The Australian Senate is kind of odd in that there's a long "lame duck period", with new Senators taking office in July 2014. So Labor + Greens have a majority until then.
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Old 09-08-2013, 07:32 PM   #269
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Going to be an interesting term coming up, the senate looks like it quite possibly could be harder to work with for Abbott than the lower house was for Gillard. There are a lot of minor parties, some of which have no known platform on almost anything. What does the Liberal Democratic party stand for? How about Motoring Enthusiasts party (who got 0.5% of the first preference vote but gets a senate seat due to back room preference swap deals)?
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Old 09-08-2013, 08:09 PM   #270
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How about Motoring Enthusiasts party (who got 0.5% of the first preference vote but gets a senate seat due to back room preference swap deals)?
Fair treatment for road users.
I voted for this party myself (being a motoring enthusiast). If you have an old school car that's modified, or a newer car that's modified, OR a vehicle that is considered to be a sports vehicle, you may find yourself getting treated poorly by the police on the roads.

My boss used to own a Corvette himself, and would get pulled over by VicPol every time he took it out (only drove it on the weekends) without fail. That was 10 years ago, not much has changed now. These days there's more and more car meets (done legally) that are targeted by police. A Downshift meet (held in Queensland at a fairgrounds that was hired) was recently targeted by the police, with defect stations set up outside the venue. Video linked below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFZfun86c8o

What can be seen there in a few frames of footage are "every day normal cars" getting rolled through the defect stations, while vehicles that people care for are pulled over, targeted, slapped with defects and fines, and sent on their way.
Many car enthusiasts over the years have been defected for ridiculous reasons. One notorious police officer has previously popped the bonnet of many cars, shaken the battery around until it wobbles, then slapped the vehicle with a defect notice for having a "loose battery".

On top of this, AMEP also wants to fight draconian anti-hoon laws. They are anti-hooning, but they don't believe impounding a car is going to stop people from doing illegal acts on the roads. If you've spent a little bit of time hanging outside in a poor-ish suburb between 11:00pm and 3:00am, you'd notice that there are still many people doing burnouts despite the presence of tough hoon laws. If the hoon laws worked people wouldn't do burnouts, but that isn't the case.

What AMEP fights for is something I could seriously rave on for for hours. To sum it up though, AMEP fights for...

- Equality amongst all motor users.
- Less red tape regarding vehicle modifications.
- Less police presence in sanctioned events where no laws are broken.
- Less support regarding nanny-state laws.

Would the lesser support for nanny-state laws include one regarding online poker? To be honest, I have no clue at all. I bet you could get a question answered by asking on their facebook page though, which they are actively using.
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Old 09-08-2013, 08:12 PM   #271
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The thing is these are all state issues and have absolutely zilch to do with federal law making. Just noticed the Sports party won a seat in WA with 0.2% of the first preference vote.
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Old 09-08-2013, 11:14 PM   #272
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Soon to be Senator Ricky Muir of the Australian Motor Enthusiasts Party is definitely an interesting unit.

Not only does he like his cars, according to his youtube channel he loves his booze, dacking people and flinging kangaroo **** at his mates. Oh, apparently he also believes that 9/11 was a US government conspiracy.

This man could be our last hope

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Old 09-09-2013, 12:09 AM   #273
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I'd rather have someone who knew how to have a good time running my country than half of the nitwits who sit in parliament pretending they know how Australian people operate.
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:48 AM   #274
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Oh, apparently he also believes that 9/11 was a US government conspiracy.
Good ****ing grief.

Looks like he will be best buddies with this guy who was seemingly elected because people can't read.


Chances are they will both be against enforcement of the IGA i guess: we have the loonies on our team!
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Old 09-09-2013, 08:04 AM   #275
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something seriously needs to be fixed with senate voting imo. How can morons like Ricky Muir and Hussain Sheiknad 1 thinks 9/11 was a conspiracy and the other whats to change australian law into islam law.
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