I feel so sick.

EDIT: Thank you VERY much for the summary, I had seen the thread already in HSNL, but, well, there's a LOT in there.

duh, no major poker site would take part in and/or cover-up cheating - it's in their best interest to run a straight game

Good job

selurah, I love that avatar!

as for UB, **** 'em, I stopped payment on my cc for their charges.

Well written, and yes it's a long read but the info is important.

thanks op

Anyone who plays online poker needs to read this.

I know this is Nav but the Bull **** level post need to be kept out of this one.

Well, at least I know what my column will be about this week.

This is a good idea I think. And point everybody in the direction of Poker Stars and Full Tilt.

Thats a good idea, its a small step in the right direction. Hopefully over time fewer people will play on those sites, and eventually it will put a dent in their bottom line.

Of course, the reason some ppl play there now is that the games are so soft because anyone who knows anything about poker, and cares about the poker community, already stopped playing there, so sharks with few morals love to feed there. They justify playing there for the soft games (which are easy to beat even with the BBJ charge), and basically have the attitude that nobody is going to waste a superuser account playing SSNL, so who cares. These are the ppl who need to be shamed off 2+2.

appreciate the work of all involved

Yeah but that guy on the top right is sick!!

(I think I will change my avatar to AP/UB is rigged, so that it actually means something...)

Just withdrew all my money and uninstalled the software. Thank you to everyone involved in the investigation

I find it ironic that Hellmuth endorses such a scummy site.

Very impressive detective work!! Pretty irrefutable stuff.

Wow, I didn't know about any of this until now. Great work.

Phil Hellmuth and Annie Duke should be UltimatelyAshamed

I had no idea that it went this deep. TY to everyone who took part in bringing this to light.

Thanks for the great summary of the situation. Lets make this thread huge.

There should be some way to make this thread come up in the first few listings of an UltimateBet Google search and be pointed to from Wikipedia.

WOW. I used to play on Absolute back in 2004-2005 then switched over to Pokerstars. Thank god I did. The idea about handing out flyers at the WSOP is great. Also I hope that Cardplayer does a big article on this and keeps it on the frontpage of the website. I doubt that this will happen but this is a HUGE disservice to the poker community. I wonder if there is any way to get this information more available to the public instead of just being on 2+2. There is alot of new players that see Hellmuth and just sign up for UB. We need to think of ways to get this into the mainstream media and show that PStars and FT are legitimate sites. If anyone is some type of editor at a website or a newspaper see if there was anyway that you could get just a little article about this info. But definently bring this up at the WSOP and I would like Cardplayer to bring this info up to players and put them on camera to see what they say about the issue. Im sure Negreanu will comment on it as he always does on these type of issues. Also I would LOVE to see what Hellmuth has to say about this. Lets just get this info to as many people as possible. Also everyone that plays on UB and Absolute please switch over and lets put these companies out of business. There is no reason to have your money on there.

Thanks for making this so easy to read and understand, very good job with the whole thing. There definitely needs to be a way to get the word out more, as other posters suggested with the wikipedia, google, and handouts @ rio ideas.

I also just posted this is 3 other forums at P5's, cardplayer forums and pokerjunkie. If anyone can think of any other forums or anywhere else to put this information out at please just put link up. We need as many people possible to be aware of this. I am also interested to see how many people leave UB because of this. If there anywhere to figure out that information?

jeez guys
online poker is already in trouble
do u really have to spend all your time trying to crash it down even harder?
they got new management, shut down the superusers.. etc...

UB advertises heavily and encourages more and more people to play poker, play online poker etc.. they're dealing with this issue